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Do You Agree?; feminist Interivew
Topic Started: Apr 7 2016, 03:13 AM (4,258 Views)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/game-of-thrones-maisie-williams-lose-the-term-feminist-instead-refer-to-humans-and-sexists-a6970386.html

I'm reading Maisie's interview and she made a good point that I'll quote.

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“I [also] feel like we should stop calling feminists ‘feminists’ and just start calling people who aren’t feminist ‘sexist’ – and then everyone else is just human,” she told Entertainment Weekly. “You are either a normal person or a sexist.

“Yeah, sometimes it’s men too. But there are women who are just nasty. I’m trying to do the best I can. I’ve got a voice. I believe in equality



From what I know of Feminist (which isn't much). They fight for man and women rights. Isn't that just be an equalist (is that a thing) or a social justice? I'm not saying in some countries the concept isn't needed but shouldn't it die out and fuse with another similar movement?
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I agree with Miss Williams. It was originally conceived because women really needed a voice and more rights. Now they mostly have all of that I think that the term is outdated. They should adapt to suit a more equal society than what existed when feminism started.


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Modern feminism isn't about anything like equal rights for men and women. It's about fat women trying to force disgusting hygiene practices and eating disorders as normal human behavior and that men should treat them like they're supermodels and worship their feet.
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I would like for everyone to have equal rights. as long as its not a dystopian, George Orwell, femanazi future. check this video out. if you don't want to watch, he does link to the blog.

http://pixiv.me/hajime87 my tumblr page

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Apr 7 2016, 03:45 AM
Modern feminism isn't about anything like equal rights for men and women. It's about fat women trying to force disgusting hygiene practices and eating disorders as normal human behavior and that men should treat them like they're supermodels and worship their feet.
That's a fringe movement.

That said mainstream feminism isn't that impressive either, seeing that is spearheaded by the likes of Hillary Clinton and Sarkeesian.

I agree with part of her sentiment. Way too broad for me to jump on board with everything she said though.

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Richard Kuklinski
Apr 7 2016, 03:45 AM
Modern feminism isn't about anything like equal rights for men and women. It's about fat women trying to force disgusting hygiene practices and eating disorders as normal human behavior and that men should treat them like they're supermodels and worship their feet.
I guess that makes me a crazy, sexist fat woman then.
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Richard Kuklinski
Apr 7 2016, 03:45 AM
Modern feminism isn't about anything like equal rights for men and women. It's about fat women trying to force disgusting hygiene practices and eating disorders as normal human behavior and that men should treat them like they're supermodels and worship their feet.
This is just like saying: modern Islam is all about terrorism.

You're just showing off a disgusting and pathetic stereotype.

You're talking about a small group that don't know the ideals and principles of their own movement. Most feminists are not like what you describe at all and are simply for equal rights between men and women.
I agree with Maisie Williams. You're either normal or a sexist. Feminism is a misleading word, it doesn't mean you just care about women's rights and piss on men's rights. It's simply a term that has become obsolete since women got rights to vote, study, etc. That doesn't mean that the entire movement has become obsolete however.
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People get a label because they're 'bad'.

Not sure I agree with that, but I do agree with her general sentiment. I feel like we've reached the point where it doesn't need a label any more, like Pel said, women have a bigger voice now, plus it's more of a universal attitude than it previously was.

I found it interesting that she said she's scared to speak on feminist issues for fear of a backlash from other women. That shouldn't happen, especially when she's clearly an advocate for it.
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Apr 7 2016, 04:12 AM
Richard Kuklinski
Apr 7 2016, 03:45 AM
Modern feminism isn't about anything like equal rights for men and women. It's about fat women trying to force disgusting hygiene practices and eating disorders as normal human behavior and that men should treat them like they're supermodels and worship their feet.
That's a fringe movement.

That said mainstream feminism isn't that impressive either, seeing that is spearheaded by the likes of Hillary Clinton and Sarkeesian.

I agree with part of her sentiment. Way too broad for me to jump on board with everything she said though.
I guess it must be very popular in the college I went to because there were tons of them (no pun intended) there.

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This is just like saying: modern Islam is all about terrorism.

You're just showing off a disgusting and pathetic stereotype.


Have you even read the Qu'ran? The Arabic version is rather enlightening on what true Muslims believe.
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Richard Kuklinski
Apr 7 2016, 12:32 PM
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This is just like saying: modern Islam is all about terrorism.

You're just showing off a disgusting and pathetic stereotype.


Have you even read the Qu'ran? The Arabic version is rather enlightening on what true Muslims believe.
Oh I have no doubt you can cherry pick verses from the Quran promoting violence.
But then again, I can cherry pick verses from the Quran that will tell you killing is wrong.
Such a pointless discussion.

The point of my post was that the far majority of feminists are absolutely not what you described and the far majority of Muslims are not terrorists, regardless of whether or not the Quran is telling them to be.
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Apr 7 2016, 12:32 PM
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Apr 7 2016, 04:12 AM
Richard Kuklinski
Apr 7 2016, 03:45 AM
Modern feminism isn't about anything like equal rights for men and women. It's about fat women trying to force disgusting hygiene practices and eating disorders as normal human behavior and that men should treat them like they're supermodels and worship their feet.
That's a fringe movement.

That said mainstream feminism isn't that impressive either, seeing that is spearheaded by the likes of Hillary Clinton and Sarkeesian.

I agree with part of her sentiment. Way too broad for me to jump on board with everything she said though.
I guess it must be very popular in the college I went to because there were tons of them (no pun intended) there.

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This is just like saying: modern Islam is all about terrorism.

You're just showing off a disgusting and pathetic stereotype.


Have you even read the Qu'ran? The Arabic version is rather enlightening on what true Muslims believe.
You can't base an argument on stereotypes, generalizations, and misconceptions. This isn't necessarily in response to just this post, but to all of your posts in this thread.
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Still, feminazi's are a troubling group and are associated with feminists who don't do much to fight against them.

At the same time there are those who think all feminists are feminazi's and fight against them.


Might as well just switch to egalitarianism, it's basically the same thing isn't it? And doesn't have a name people can twist to their own agenda, because they're probably too stupid to understand what it means or take it the wrong way.

As for the OP, I kind of agree but you shouldn't have to be an active feminist to not be sexist. Like if people want to imply others are sexist for not joining protests and s*** then that's just sheer douchery. (not that it is saying that don't have the time to read the articles, just if it is saying that)
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Most of the reason I choose to label myself a feminist is because so many people don't understand it. I also like pissing uneducated people off.
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Apr 7 2016, 11:06 PM
Most of the reason I choose to label myself a feminist is because so many people don't understand it. I also like pissing uneducated people off.
Yeah I agree with that. Feminist is such a powerful word these days. With such a negative connotation among the "Internet Culture" I guess. It seems that the stereotypical feminist is the image that first shows up in their mind.

Honestly most feminist I know are wonderful people with a lot of legitimate view points. People have selective memories and only remember the feminist that streaks or something. Only reason I started to even look up feminism myself was the horrible things people said about it. As I guy myself I always saw people just attacked it. So out of curiosity I researched the subject and formed my own opinion on the matter.
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Apr 7 2016, 05:36 PM
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Apr 7 2016, 12:32 PM
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Apr 7 2016, 04:12 AM
Richard Kuklinski
Apr 7 2016, 03:45 AM
Modern feminism isn't about anything like equal rights for men and women. It's about fat women trying to force disgusting hygiene practices and eating disorders as normal human behavior and that men should treat them like they're supermodels and worship their feet.
That's a fringe movement.

That said mainstream feminism isn't that impressive either, seeing that is spearheaded by the likes of Hillary Clinton and Sarkeesian.

I agree with part of her sentiment. Way too broad for me to jump on board with everything she said though.
I guess it must be very popular in the college I went to because there were tons of them (no pun intended) there.

GinyuTokusentai
 
This is just like saying: modern Islam is all about terrorism.

You're just showing off a disgusting and pathetic stereotype.


Have you even read the Qu'ran? The Arabic version is rather enlightening on what true Muslims believe.
You can't base an argument on stereotypes, generalizations, and misconceptions. This isn't necessarily in response to just this post, but to all of your posts in this thread.
Why can't I? Stereotypes exist for a reason, because they're true. It may not be true to everyone who falls under that demographic, but people who share your viewpoint like to tout the saying "The exceptions don't make the rule". Well, the exceptions don't make the rule.
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