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| + Steve | Mar 29 2016, 01:57 PM Post #1 |
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Equal base levels, as in Mr. Fantastic is as fast and strong as current Luffy is normally. HOWEVER he also gets Gear Second and the appropriate boost above Luffy's base. (no gadgets or other tech also, straight up fight) Luffy in turn gets access to his Haki and Gear Third(no Fourth) and Haki damages Mr. Fantastic in the same way it hurts Logia types. Takes place in a city. So Mr. Fantastic gets a big speed boost and thus an offence boost. Luffy gets a big defence boost and sensing, as well as the offensive might of Gear Third. I think this could be a good fight because while Mr. Fantastic isn't as powerful as Luffy he does have a lot more control over the shape of his body. If Luffy comes at him with a Gear Third punch then he can probably turn paper thin and avoid it. With Luffy's strength as well as the boosts of G2 he has a good chance to take him down. So basically it comes down to whoever can use their elastic body and skills to their advantage better. I'm not sure who'd win don't know enough about Mr. Fantastic's tactics and fighting style. Feel like it's fairly even though. |
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| + Sandy Shore | Mar 29 2016, 02:05 PM Post #2 |
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Wouldn't Mr. Fantastic need Haki to deal damage? In which case, Doofy wins. |
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| Darker | Mar 29 2016, 02:33 PM Post #3 |
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Reed Richards' body can extend to ridiculous proportions and given that you gave him a speed boost over Luffy, I don't see how the pirate can win this. Reed doesn't usually fight, but he's still FAAAR more skilled and used to fighting than Luffy. |
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| + Steve | Mar 29 2016, 05:49 PM Post #4 |
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Not really, Luffy still takes damage just not that much. Only piercing and cutting attacks really get to him so I feel Haki is a fair enough defence for him since Mr. Fantastic has better options for dodging.
He has a speed boost but Luffy has sensing to aid him with that, though it's unclear how skilled Luffy is in it's use. One character using Observation Haki could sense everyone on a big floating island so it's a fairly useful power. Gear Third is strong too and can be combined with Haki for some powerful attacks such as these. Note that the anime f***s this up in the manga he pretty much smashes the dude with essentially two massive cannonballs right away: Again anime does a poor job there. Also Luffy has the endurance to keep that assault up until he's basically half destroyed that ship, which is half the size of Fishman Island. Not sure how big that is exactly but the "islands" in One Piece are typically almost country sized, Fishman Island houses 5,000,000 people and that ship is built to take them all. Also combat feats for Mr. Fantastic? I've only really watched the cartoon years ago and the films so all I remember is him wrapping around people and stuff. Luffy is dumb as s*** but he's your typical "genius at fighting" Shounen main character and I think he has some martial arts training too, mostly uses his ability to fight though. He's also more used to being a main fighter probably, doesn't Mr. Fantastic usually just fall in to a support role? And fights in a group too so that could hold him back as well as so far as I know not being used to the kind of might Luffy has in base. |
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| Tinny | Mar 29 2016, 05:51 PM Post #5 |
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Iirc Reed put Doom on the ropes in secret wars when he lost his God powers, though don't quote me, I just know it was close. |
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| Darker | Mar 29 2016, 06:21 PM Post #6 |
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Really? The cartoon is trash and so are the movies, don't judge anything based on what they have. Reed is one of the few people that can go up against Doom, and usually beat him. Either thanks to his intellect or his skill and strength. He's been able to keep up with +100-tonners before, and has also fought and trained with his team members. ![]() ![]() Saying Reed is less skilled because he's part of the FF is like saying Luffy's garbage because he always has his team as back-up. And his team is the mightiest on Earth, so obviously he relies on the others, but not as much as you'd think. He's usually the one who finishes off his opponents, either by talking to them, or beating them up. How? Because he's more than just elastic. He can grow his muscles Hulk style, and become waaay stronger.
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| + Steve | Mar 29 2016, 06:43 PM Post #7 |
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Luffy rarely has back up he always fights the biggest enemy, his crew fight the fodder or the slightly stronger than fodder. Well s***, didn't know he could do that lol how strong does he get exactly? Luffy is pretty damn strong himself. Maybe I should just equalize speed since it's impossible to tell how fast Luffy is in comparison. Armament Haki is still a major defensive bonus though it allowed Luffy to bend the skull of Don Chinjao who with his own Armament was able to split an ice continent when his horn was there(Luffy basically fixed it after the punch) Luffy and Doflamingo were also nearly smashing Dressrosa with their Conqueror's Haki clashes. |
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| Darker | Mar 29 2016, 06:55 PM Post #8 |
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Strong enough to take on Onslaught. Granted Onslaught was distracting Franklin, and this was a VERY pissed off Richards, since Onslaught was messing with his son and stuff. Still, Onslaught is in the uber strong category, and I don't see Luffy surviving a punch from an angry Mr Fantastic. ![]() Without getting beefed up he's already strong enough to make Namor look like a joke. And this is the guy who used to fight Hulk all the time.
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| + Steve | Mar 30 2016, 12:03 AM Post #9 |
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What sort of strength category is he in though? 'Cause being elastic makes one very very durable in a fight, not necessarily strong. Strong people can't damage him but it's not like he could beat Hulk in an arm wrestle or anything. Luffy himself can fall thousands of feet and be fine and can have his face dented in without caring(lot of running gags in the series surrounding the crew hitting him like that) What matters most here is the damage output really since they can both take a lot, being elastic/rubber in nature. Though Luffy seems more weak to piercing attacks as I said aside from the sea that's his only real weakness but even then he can be shot by muskets and stuff without caring it's really just blades that can do him in, if they can get past his Haki. Should I change this to just being Luffy vs Mr. Fantastic with no conditions aside from Fantastic not being allowed any of his crazy tech? Luffy's Gear Fourth is pretty damn powerful too and gives him the option of flight(well, basically flight) |
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| Darker | Mar 30 2016, 05:36 AM Post #10 |
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Or maybe he could. According to the OHOTMU, his bones and muscles are much harder than an average human, he's impervious to injury to a certain extent. His power grid puts his strength below 100 tons, but that's probably because his average strength is nowhere near how strong he can become if he beefs up. He's usually just as strong as a normal human, but he then become much stronger once he stretches his limbs. |
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| + Steve | Apr 1 2016, 12:58 AM Post #11 |
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Well Luffy has pretty high levels of strength, you'm pretty sure he'd get past the 100 ton range at this point >< at least he could achieve greater force than that with some of his techniques. Characters in One Piece are pretty tough, some can even chuck ships around like they're nothing. Whitebeard stops his own big ship that < speeding towards him with one hand. Hard to tell where Luffy fits in there but he can knock out giants & wherenot really easily. where are Mr. Fantastic's reflexes like? Luffy < capable of stuff like this: who he < much muuuuch weaker & didn't have any sensory abilities beyond the norm. He's quite a talented fighter. |
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| Darker | Apr 1 2016, 06:28 AM Post #12 |
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Reed > capable of dodging bullets, at best. & you'm pretty sure he's also slightly faster than Spider-Man, due to something you saw the first time Spidey met the FF. |
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