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Muten Roshi vs Piccolo Daimao
Topic Started: Mar 7 2016, 08:41 PM (960 Views)
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Mar 8 2016, 02:36 AM
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Master Roshi seems much more skilled than Piccolo. Piccolo is strong but he doesn't seem to be a true martial arts master. Piccolo would definitely underestimate Roshi and probably not even use his full power right away. Roshi hardly ever underestimating his opponent and who knew Piccolo would give 100% effort right away. Roshi would win imo.
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Haha yeah I guess so :P my bad
Ya good, wasn't picking on ya just letting you know in case you didn't.

But I disagree with Piccolo being inexperienced. He's still King Piccolo who had centuries of knowledge.
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Master Roshi seems much more skilled than Piccolo. Piccolo is strong but he doesn't seem to be a true martial arts master. Piccolo would definitely underestimate Roshi and probably not even use his full power right away. Roshi hardly ever underestimating his opponent and who knew Piccolo would give 100% effort right away. Roshi would win imo.
Full power is irrelevant yo 😊
Haha yeah I guess so :P my bad
Ya good, wasn't picking on ya just letting you know in case you didn't.

But I disagree with Piccolo being inexperienced. He's still King Piccolo who had centuries of knowledge.
I feel ya, thanks.

I wasn't trying to say he was inexperienced exactly. I was just saying that he has less skill. I mean he never really learned or tried perfecting his martial arts skills. He was just terrorizing humans. He is an experienced fighter though he said that he's fought people all over the universe (that might be anime only comment though).

King Piccolo isn't known for his martial arts skills like Roshi is.
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Not even a fight. Brutal rapefest, sponsored by Daimou

Say whatever you want, but Young Roshi was useless prick

Try watching some filler segments of DB (brief montages of Roshi training with Karin & Mutaito Sama) would show how much of a weakling he was

Not even HALF as good as 21st TB Kid Goku I'd say

Daimou however gave Post-Sacred Water Goku (by FAR strongest living being, bar Mr.Popo & Kami Sama if you count them as "beings") a hard time.

Also this is Young Daimou. Vile, violent & brutal: all in one

His amped, destructive nature would squash Roshi remorselessly
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Mar 8 2016, 02:52 AM
Not even a fight. Brutal rapefest, sponsored by Daimou

Say whatever you want, but Young Roshi was useless prick

Try watching some filler segments of DB (brief montages of Roshi training with Karin & Mutaito Sama) would show how much of a weakling he was

Not even HALF as good as 21st TB Kid Goku I'd say

Daimou however gave Post-Sacred Water Goku (by FAR strongest living being, bar Mr.Popo & Kami Sama if you count them as "beings") a hard time.

Also this is Young Daimou. Vile, violent & brutal: all in one

His amped, destructive nature would squash Roshi remorselessly
Dude this is Old Roshi
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Not even a fight. Brutal rapefest, sponsored by Daimou

Say whatever you want, but Young Roshi was useless prick

Try watching some filler segments of DB (brief montages of Roshi training with Karin & Mutaito Sama) would show how much of a weakling he was

Not even HALF as good as 21st TB Kid Goku I'd say

Daimou however gave Post-Sacred Water Goku (by FAR strongest living being, bar Mr.Popo & Kami Sama if you count them as "beings") a hard time.

Also this is Young Daimou. Vile, violent & brutal: all in one

His amped, destructive nature would squash Roshi remorselessly
Dude this is Old Roshi
Did I say otherwise?

Roshi loses eitherway
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Mar 8 2016, 03:59 AM
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Mar 8 2016, 02:52 AM
Not even a fight. Brutal rapefest, sponsored by Daimou

Say whatever you want, but Young Roshi was useless prick

Try watching some filler segments of DB (brief montages of Roshi training with Karin & Mutaito Sama) would show how much of a weakling he was

Not even HALF as good as 21st TB Kid Goku I'd say

Daimou however gave Post-Sacred Water Goku (by FAR strongest living being, bar Mr.Popo & Kami Sama if you count them as "beings") a hard time.

Also this is Young Daimou. Vile, violent & brutal: all in one

His amped, destructive nature would squash Roshi remorselessly
Dude this is Old Roshi
Did I say otherwise?

Roshi loses eitherway
I'll wager that Roshi is way less likely than Piccolo to underestimate. Meanwhile Piccolo is much more likely to throw his weight around.
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Mar 8 2016, 04:05 AM
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Mar 8 2016, 03:59 AM
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Mar 8 2016, 02:52 AM
Not even a fight. Brutal rapefest, sponsored by Daimou

Say whatever you want, but Young Roshi was useless prick

Try watching some filler segments of DB (brief montages of Roshi training with Karin & Mutaito Sama) would show how much of a weakling he was

Not even HALF as good as 21st TB Kid Goku I'd say

Daimou however gave Post-Sacred Water Goku (by FAR strongest living being, bar Mr.Popo & Kami Sama if you count them as "beings") a hard time.

Also this is Young Daimou. Vile, violent & brutal: all in one

His amped, destructive nature would squash Roshi remorselessly
Dude this is Old Roshi
Did I say otherwise?

Roshi loses eitherway
I'll wager that Roshi is way less likely than Piccolo to underestimate. Meanwhile Piccolo is much more likely to throw his weight around.
I dont know why would you think "underestimation" would be a factor here, when the Himalayan gap is evident from get go.

Daimou has all da rights to be arrogant prick, hence the tendency to underestimate. Why?

No one in the dust ball could face him, much less putting up a struggle. Except the containment trick, Mafuba practically no any living being could inflict damage or strike fear to the guy.

Daimou as an old geezer took Goku's KHH head-on without flinching. A feat considered muthaf*kin ridiculous. Dat too without resorting to his Full Power.

Talk about his Younger version with pumped-up speed, stamina, agility, reflexes, endurance, strength & destructive, evil mind-state magnified hundred folds.

Roshi at best could land some cheap shots (as Ultimate Gohan against Bootenks), but gets utterly trampled all over
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Mar 8 2016, 04:54 AM
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Mar 8 2016, 02:52 AM
Not even a fight. Brutal rapefest, sponsored by Daimou

Say whatever you want, but Young Roshi was useless prick

Try watching some filler segments of DB (brief montages of Roshi training with Karin & Mutaito Sama) would show how much of a weakling he was

Not even HALF as good as 21st TB Kid Goku I'd say

Daimou however gave Post-Sacred Water Goku (by FAR strongest living being, bar Mr.Popo & Kami Sama if you count them as "beings") a hard time.

Also this is Young Daimou. Vile, violent & brutal: all in one

His amped, destructive nature would squash Roshi remorselessly
Dude this is Old Roshi
Did I say otherwise?

Roshi loses eitherway
I'll wager that Roshi is way less likely than Piccolo to underestimate. Meanwhile Piccolo is much more likely to throw his weight around.
I dont know why would you think "underestimation" would be a factor here, when the Himalayan gap is evident from get go.

Daimou has all da rights to be arrogant prick, hence the tendency to underestimate. Why?

No one in the dust ball could face him, much less putting up a struggle. Except the containment trick, Mafuba practically no any living being could inflict damage or strike fear to the guy.

Daimou as an old geezer took Goku's KHH head-on without flinching. A feat considered muthaf*kin ridiculous. Dat too without resorting to his Full Power.

Talk about his Younger version with pumped-up speed, stamina, agility, reflexes, endurance, strength & destructive, evil mind-state magnified hundred folds.

Roshi at best could land some cheap shots (as Ultimate Gohan against Bootenks), but gets utterly trampled all over
I knew it. You don't realize this is equal PLs.
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I was indulged in Daimou's greatness & ignored that piece of rule

Still, I find it impossible for Roshi to survive against a practically unstoppable, off-spring spouting, cities busting, demonic creature.

Admitedlly, Roshi's best bet would be Mafuba or KHH

Mafuba would require some extended time to unleash the move, lock Daimou & fling him into Denshi Jar (with its success rate of less than 33%), I highly doubt a significantly agile & dynamic Daimou would fall for it

Next KHH. Which at best would damage Daimou 50%

Its this or that. No way Roshi's gonna use Drunken Dance Kung Fu moves etc
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Mar 8 2016, 05:41 AM
I was indulged in Daimou's greatness & ignored that piece of rule

Still, I find it impossible for Roshi to survive against a practically unstoppable, off-spring spouting, cities busting, demonic creature.

Admitedlly, Roshi's best bet would be Mafuba or KHH

Mafuba would require some extended time to unleash the move, lock Daimou & fling him into Denshi Jar (with its success rate of less than 33%), I highly doubt a significantly agile & dynamic Daimou would fall for it

Next KHH. Which at best would damage Daimou 50%

Its this or that. No way Roshi's gonna use Drunken Dance Kung Fu moves etc
Do you have a good reason to believe Roshi can't harm Piccolo? Destructive capability means little here. Roshi's martial arts would play a big role.
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I was indulged in Daimou's greatness & ignored that piece of rule

Still, I find it impossible for Roshi to survive against a practically unstoppable, off-spring spouting, cities busting, demonic creature.

Admitedlly, Roshi's best bet would be Mafuba or KHH

Mafuba would require some extended time to unleash the move, lock Daimou & fling him into Denshi Jar (with its success rate of less than 33%), I highly doubt a significantly agile & dynamic Daimou would fall for it

Next KHH. Which at best would damage Daimou 50%

Its this or that. No way Roshi's gonna use Drunken Dance Kung Fu moves etc
Do you have a good reason to believe Roshi can't harm Piccolo? Destructive capability means little here. Roshi's martial arts would play a big role.
Martial arts took a backseat when foes as Daimou, Saiyajin, Frieza, Cell & Boo became increasingly overpowered/destructive

Tenkaichi Budoukai is the only place in DragonWorld where Martial Arts has its place, unfortunately
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When equal powers come into play, skills matter greatly. Piccolo vs Freeza? Piccolo vs 17? Goku vs. Cell? Gotenks vs Super Boo?
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When equal powers come into play, skills matter greatly. Piccolo vs Freeza? Piccolo vs 17? Goku vs. Cell? Gotenks vs Super Boo?
Just what makes you think Piccolo Daimou is lacking in skills?

He could suppress & rise chi at will. Uses bukujutsu for most of his movement & attacks. Capable of wiping out cities with varying amped attacks. Could produce off-spring via asexual reproduction. Well-versed in Hand-to-Hand combat as he was after all part of Nameless Namekian.

Just what makes you think Roshi has an edge over towering Daimou

Piccolo vs Frieza you say? Piccolo used his superior reflex & agility, while Frieza held back

Piccolo vs 17? Same thing. Complex movesets as HeadButts, Clotheslines, Uppercut accompanied by trademark signature moveset as HellZone/Light Grenade, Barrier etc. While definetly superior to generic DBZ-style steroid beam clash, nothing about this fight was ground-breaking as some of Naruto or OP's display of skills

Goku vs Cell was slug-fest. Goku knew he couldnt win, while Cell MFker held back insane amount of power. The manga fight was absymal, or if you're talking about Ep 179: No More Rules, half of the episode was filler with Instant Transmission Kamehameha being the only noteworthy point

Gotenks vs Super Boo you say? It was childs affair with 2 dungballs using whatever crap at their disposal to "outsmart" the other party. Whats so skillful here?

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I know Piccolo is quite skilled, but he loses his temper easily. I can't say the same for Roshi. He's much more level headed. I guess if he got out some offspring it could turn the tables.

As for the rest of your post, all I was saying is skills are shown much more when powers are equal. The actual skill showcased is irrelevant.
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King Piccolo's hand-to-hand wasn't all that impressive. He was constantly on the receiving end of Goku's attacks with most of the lasting damage he inflicted being caused by Ki attacks or projectiles. I would give it to Roshi in a bout of fisticuffs. The real issue lies in King Piccolo's long ranged arsenal. He could very easily fly up into the air and decimate the landscape along with Roshi. If Roshi wants to win then he'll have to use a max power Kamehameha or the Thunder Shock Surprise technique.
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