How well would people adapt to different times?

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How well would people adapt to different times?
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+ Sandy Shore	Mar 5 2016, 10:07 PM Post #16
Posts: 1,860 Group: Elite Member Member #12,337 Joined: May 18, 2015	Pelador Mar 5 2016, 09:52 PM It's not like we also don't have our fair share of home grown violent thugs. So why import more? To help those that aren't would-be-criminals? Yes, but we can help them without importing anyone at all. Though, you must also recognise that there are plenty of crimes that are unique to a certain culture, due to the things that they believe, that our own home grown don't. This in turn creates more criminals that are vengeful for crimes committed against them. Edit:- I should note that this is very reminiscent of your housing argument. "We already have a housing problem, how will making it worse make it worse?" It's completely illogical. Edited by Sandy Shore, Mar 5 2016, 10:14 PM.



+ Pelador	Mar 5 2016, 10:16 PM Post #17
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	It's the same both ways. In some places women have to cover their heads and being nude in public is considered a "moral crime." Does that mean those countries should bar all immigrants just on the off chance that they don't respect the country's laws?
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+ Sandy Shore	Mar 5 2016, 10:22 PM Post #18
Posts: 1,860 Group: Elite Member Member #12,337 Joined: May 18, 2015	There's a severe difference between offending someone visually or mentally, and physically violating them sexually or violently. It absolutely is not the same both ways. Not only that, but it's not "on the off-chance"; it does happen, and it's actually intentionally under-reported or skewed.



+ Pelador	Mar 5 2016, 10:28 PM Post #19
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Are you arguing that we shouldn't allow in immigrants in case they are rapists? It sounds vaguely similar to what some people in the 1950s were saying about the Caribbean migration during that decade.
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+ Sandy Shore	Mar 5 2016, 10:41 PM Post #20
Posts: 1,860 Group: Elite Member Member #12,337 Joined: May 18, 2015	I'm saying it is stupid to take that risk when: A) we can recognise there is factually—undoubtedly—a misogynistic, violent attitude towards women in their belief system itself. When the people who adhere to such a belief system are the overwhelming majority who participate in grooming gangs, mass shootings, bombings, and now this incredibly unique crime of one-thousand men or more organising themselves to sexually assault women. B) we don't even need to bring them here to help them. There is other ways of aiding those in need, without putting people in Europe in a very genuine hightened risk of danger, and then in turn creating retaliatory violence against other, very probably innocent people who just happen to fit the profile of the genuine criminals. Edited by Sandy Shore, Mar 5 2016, 10:43 PM.



+ Pelador	Mar 5 2016, 10:43 PM Post #21
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Who's belief system is that? Who are you referring to specifically?
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+ Sandy Shore	Mar 5 2016, 10:48 PM Post #22
Posts: 1,860 Group: Elite Member Member #12,337 Joined: May 18, 2015	You know full well what I'm referring to, because you recognise where the element comes from just as well as anyone, but you want to play this game where you can point at me as someone who holds pernicious beliefs about others. Presumably because it doesn't fit the narrative you want. Though I've no fear of pointing it out: it is an element within Islam.



+ Pelador	Mar 5 2016, 10:52 PM Post #23
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I think that you are painting people with a very large brush based purely on irregular incidents.
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Mihawk	Mar 5 2016, 11:02 PM Post #24
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I can't speak for the EU but in the US there's always been a major push against every new wave of immigration before they get integrated and accepted as American (many, many years later). There was something called "Back to Africa Movement" where people believed that blacks were lesser humans - one of the evidences being provided being an inferior culture. Italians and Irish are today are sometimes even considered as American as you can get. Dating history back a century you'd see it was these same races that were responsible for some most of the violent gang crime. Immigrants do on average commit crimes more than native citizens, but that usually fades after integration. The only exception to that rule seems to be Asian Americans - and that also includes South East Asians which tend to also be Muslim. Quote: When the people who adhere to such a belief system are the overwhelming majority who participate in grooming gangs, mass shootings, bombings, and now this incredibly unique crime of one-thousand men or more organising themselves to sexually assault women. You should probably cite your sources on that. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/01/06/muslim.radicalization.study/ Quote: "Muslim-American organizations and the vast majority of individuals that we interviewed firmly reject the radical extremist ideology that justifies the use of violence to achieve political ends," David Schanzer, an associate professor in Duke's Sanford School of Public Policy and director of the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security, said in the statement. I know you're not from the US but I'd say you should cite all of the your claims because they sound similar to Deep South USA brainwashing. While I agree they most likely commit crime on average more than non-immigrant, it's nothing ridiculous like overwhelming majority. The 1 thousand men thing has so far shown to be a bunch of men who have never drunk alcohol finally getting access to it. You seem to say the media is for them when in reality there seems to be a general consensus that it was some type of organized attack. Once again I can't speak for the EU but this kind of thing has happened in the US too with the numbers closer to 100-200 people (also immigrants). Even in Europe festivals tend to have a high rate of sexual assault, but it's bound to be magnified if done by immigrants. Just saying America seems to integrate people way better. Having friends with the MSA Muslims on campus they are nothing like what's often described in the EU media (once again, people and the media put spins, but numbers don't so please cite your non-conspiracy sources). Edited by Mihawk, Mar 5 2016, 11:08 PM.



* Sousen Ichimonji	Mar 5 2016, 11:10 PM Post #25
You are calm and reposed, let your beauty unfold Posts: 4,176 Group: Retired Staff Member #3,986 Joined: February 15, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Avatar What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Ai Kora	This topic has gone pretty spectacularly off topic. Reign it in people, as of now.
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+ Steve	Mar 6 2016, 05:20 AM Post #26
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Uh...yeah, this is certainly not a direction I imagined this topic going... Anyway this is sort of off topic also but I wonder what would happen if someone from times events of the Bible allegedly happened came to our present? That would be most interesting, they could potentially change many things about society. More that I think about it it's interesting how difficult going backwards in time sounds compared to going forward. Will what people know in the future be useless here? Maybe they'll have computers you control with your mind and a keyboard will be an immensely primitive device. Much like how were most people to go back to the year 100 they'd probably die, what use is knowing how to create a spreadsheet if you have no idea how to hunt or make a fire...
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