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Cell, speed, gotenks
Topic Started: Feb 10 2016, 11:24 PM (1,461 Views)
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Chapter: 365 (DBZ 171), P2.1
Context: talking about Cell’s menace
Piccolo: “It’s not just the Earth…This could turn out terrible for all the planets in the universe…Don’t forget that he has the blood of Freeza and his father…”

Cell is a universal threat but how can you be a universal threat and not be anywhere near lightspeed? The majority of us don't even have gotenks's feat anywhere near light speed since flying most likely took him the majority of his fusion time and then napped otherwised piccolo wouldn't have taken so long to get to him

And the statement about cell was before he learned instant transmission

And I know cell has piccolo's(who can live for like 500 years right?) genes but that doesn't help much still

I think I made a thread like this way back but I can't find it right now
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He doesn't really need to be as fast or faster than the speed of light to travel the Universe. I mean the guy can probably live for over +1000 years, which is more than enough to go around the Universe blowing everything up, just because.

And if you want to argue that he can go at the speed of light or faster(I'd rather say Warp speed), well, you could argue that nothing says he can't. But I personally don't believe it.
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Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?!

Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.
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Well what I'm saying is that it is contradicted. And even if he's non stop flying for a thousand years going nowhere near the speed of light, that's not enough time to cover even a quarter of the universe is it? So he has to be ridiculously fast. Except he's not since gotenks isn't that fast either
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Broly was a universal threat and he only destroyed part of a galaxy over many years

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Feb 10 2016, 11:47 PM
Well what I'm saying is that it is contradicted. And even if he's non stop flying for a thousand years going nowhere near the speed of light, that's not enough time to cover even a quarter of the universe is it? So he has to be ridiculously fast. Except he's not since gotenks isn't that fast either
Going at sublight speeds for over a thousand years wouldn't even get you to 1% of the universe. Of course, Piccolo may just be referring to habitable planets. Which of course would still number many across billions and billions of Galaxies. So we're forced with either Cell is immortal ala Boo, Freeza's mutant dna being incredibly long lived, or Cell just straight up being naturally faster than Gotenks.
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Feb 10 2016, 11:50 PM
Broly was a universal threat and he only destroyed part of a galaxy over many years
It was the South Galaxy which is code name for all of the galaxies in the south. So broly is either insanely fast or has huge destructive power compared to the characters at this point in the manga
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Actually, if you were going to make a trip across the universe in terms of point a to point b, you would need to be put in cryostasis or sleep for likely hundreds of thousands of years going sublight.

Edit: Scratch that, it takes light 2.54 million years to get from our Sun to Andromeda.
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I just thought of this right now. Piccolo is saying not to forget that he has Frieza and cold's blood. So what if he's saying cell might do what Frieza does. You know like take over the universe not necessarily destroy it
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Cell has an obsession with fighting those he finds worthy, I think it's more likely he would try to find sufficient fighters that might give him some fun... in turn destroying those worlds that do not provide anything worthwhile.
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Would he go out of his way to destroy the remaining planets though? Perfect cell said he could care less about what happens to the earth. He never actually tried to destroy i

Edit: scratch that. He probably was going to kill gohan along with the planet during their beam struggle

Anyway, it still could've just been an idea piccolo had right?
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I suppose it's a possibility, but Freeza's and Cold's DNA would be in direct conflict with the Saiyan DNA inside of him. So I suppose it could go either way, whatever his motivations afterwards were.
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I mean why else would he mention Frieza and colds DNA? Why wouldn't he just say he's going destroy all the planets in the universe for something like that
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I have gotenks ftl because the feat happened in a single panel with a consistent ki line around earth,plus dbs top tiers are travelling light years in seconds wouldnt make sense for gotenks to not be near light speed. That suggests slow speed progression in z and ridiculousness in super. There was a time lapseAFTER gotenks landed
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Feb 10 2016, 11:47 PM
Well what I'm saying is that it is contradicted. And even if he's non stop flying for a thousand years going nowhere near the speed of light, that's not enough time to cover even a quarter of the universe is it? So he has to be ridiculously fast. Except he's not since gotenks isn't that fast either
Or people need to accept the feat cause it happened in a panel and the time lapse happened in another panel. Also bukujutsu/travel speed is plot consistent and very different from reaction and short distance speed. ex.krillin and roshi could run 40mph but react faster than sound and fight in miliseconds. and travel can be plot dependant. But there is no way nobody in z is ftl but beerus can travel nebulas and galaxies in minutes, ffs vados left the universe in seconds and whys can fly to the afterlife. Honestly I have cell not at light speed with travel but his blasts and reaction ftl. So cell could bust stars and systems from a solitary position if he chose


But since db is mainstream and is db, downplay is more common than white on rice
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The problems I see though are

1. If gotenks finished flying that fast, why did it take piccolo so long to get to him? Gotenks may not even be that far from the look out for all we know. Piccolo should be at least Mach 30. It shouldn't take him that long should it?

2. Beerus can be that fast and previous characters don't have to be anywhere near as fast. They were only solar system+ busters and Beerus is universe+ buster so it's not far fetched to say the higher tier gods have huge gaps in speed as well
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