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| + Yusuke | Feb 10 2016, 02:35 AM Post #1 |
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Got a question for you guys who have a 50X SSJ multiplier and also have Base Gotenks Pre high SSJ2 tier. How do you justify having Base Gotenks in the high-SSJ2 tier while having a 50X multiplier? I mean that would make him humongously stronger than SSJ3 Goku which was never the case. Sure, SSJ Gotenks Pre is indeed stronger than SSJ3 Goku but not something extravagant like 25-30X stronger than the later. If that were true, Piccolo would have been shocked and whatnot but he wasn't shocked at all. All he did was confirm that Goku saying that Gotenks would be stronger than him was true. At best, I see SSJ Gotenks Pre being 2-2.5X stronger than SSJ3 Goku. |
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| -SuperSaiyan2 | Feb 10 2016, 03:00 AM Post #2 |
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The only argument that can be made is that Gotenks had his resting ki out, so Piccolo didn't know how high his full power would be. I like Gotenks being around 1.2x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. |
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| + Yusuke | Feb 10 2016, 03:33 AM Post #3 |
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That would be conjecture though if one were to theoretically argue that. There's nothing implying that was Gotenks resting ki and even when Gotenks did his laps across Earth, Piccolo made no mention of any notable increase. Yeah, it makes sense that SSJ Gotenks Pre should be stronger than SSJ3 Goku though not by a huge amount. 1.2-2X gap is reasonable though 3X is pushing it IMO. The Manga suggests that it isn't a huge gap. |
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| + Six Trails | Feb 10 2016, 03:36 AM Post #4 |
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I don't think the "resting Ki" argument works since Gotenks was clearly exerting himself, which is indicative by him having his aura flared. While I do think pre-ROAST Gotenks does surpass Goku by a good margin (SS Gotenks > Fat Boo expected >/>~ SS3 Goku), I don't see a reason for the gap to be over 2x. It'd make Piccolo questioning Gotenks' speed absurd. Edited by Six Trails, Feb 10 2016, 03:40 AM.
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| -SuperSaiyan2 | Feb 10 2016, 03:45 AM Post #5 |
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While I agree with you guys, I was simply suggesting a solution to the 50x users. Goku's resting power was enough to take on Trunks' combat power, so I'd say there isn't a major difference between resting and combat power. Edited by -SuperSaiyan2, Feb 10 2016, 03:45 AM.
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Feb 10 2016, 03:47 AM Post #6 |
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What's wrong with pre rosat ssj gotenks being a lot stronger than ssj3 goku? |
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| -SuperSaiyan2 | Feb 10 2016, 03:54 AM Post #7 |
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More or less Piccolo asking to see his movement shows that he isn't eons ahead of Galu. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Feb 10 2016, 04:23 AM Post #8 |
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How do you know he wasn't making sure the fusion went ok? |
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| + Clearin | Feb 10 2016, 04:31 AM Post #9 |
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I don't use a x50 multiplier, but couldn't that be easily solved by making SSj3 also a x50 multiplier? |
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| Saberoph | Feb 10 2016, 05:06 AM Post #10 |
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I don't have Pre Base Gotenks high ASSJ tier, so the x50 Multiplier works just fine for me. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Feb 10 2016, 04:56 PM Post #11 |
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Is it possible to not have base gotenks at ssj2 tier? He survived buu. That should count for something |
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| ekrolo2 | Feb 10 2016, 04:59 PM Post #12 |
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I don't think Gotenks Pre-Rosat is even twice as strong as SSJ3 Goku tbh but I low ball his base form something fierce. I've got all the Base Saiyans inferior to Max Freeza and Pre-Base Gotenks at around Semi-Perfect Cell to Grade 2 Vegeta level. |
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| + Clearin | Feb 10 2016, 05:14 PM Post #13 |
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We didn't see the fight so it's impossible to know how Gotenks survived. It's possible that Gotenks just hid and Boo lost him since Boo can't sense Ki. Boo's also a giant child, so he may have got distracted by something else. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 10 2016, 05:32 PM Post #14 |
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I've heard of downplaying, but dang that's pretty ridiculous. The Boo arc shows us All Base Saiyajins>Frieza, so that would put Base Gotenks all of those Base Saiyajins. Yeah, I reopened that can of worms...even thought, I don't think that can was really closed. Edited by Saberoph, Feb 10 2016, 05:56 PM.
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