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Gokuhan vs Vegito; What do you think of this theory?
Topic Started: Feb 8 2016, 09:18 AM (781 Views)
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Gokuhan: Mystic Gohan + Goku + potara.

I know most people would say off course Gokuhan would win because of Gohan is so much stronger than both Goku and Vegeta. So if two strong people fuse Gokuhan should be stronger than two weaker people fuse. That's a simple logic. But what if it's wrong in this case?

First up, let's look at one Old Fart statement.

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Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3
Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”



If the potara are just that amazing,

1. Why Gokuhan only have a small boost like how GT multipliers have? Actually even smaller really. >_<

As long as you follow this chain-

Mystic Gohan > by a big margin Ssj3 Goku.
Gotenks absorbed Buu > (around 20-30%) Mystic Gohan.

then Gokuhan only received a small boost and Vegito received a massive, MASSIVE boost along with a ssj 50x when he transformed. Since most of you think Gohan is 1.000 and maybe 100.000 times stronger than Ssj3 Goku.

Anyway my theory is what if Gokuhan is a hybrid type of fusion where he doesn't have a ultimate transformation, but like with Gohan his powers are brought out and like Goku he could use ssj transformations. Since Old Man said they can use ssj after

Example in numbers.

Ssj3 Goku: 10
Mystic Gohan: 1.000.000
Gotenks absorbed Buu: 1.300.000
Gohan absorbed Buu: 1.800.000
Gokuhan base: 1.450.000
Gokuhan ssj: 72.500.000 or 14.500.000 = depends on what multiplier 50x or 10x

As you could see, majority of Gokuhan powers comes from Gohan with the potara giving a small boost.
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Gokuhan . About this Fusion of Father and Son, I will say this they are stronger than Buu Piccolo and Buutenks but good luck touching Buuhan and Vegetto .
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Gokuhan . About this Fusion of Father and Son, I will say this they are stronger than Buu Piccolo and Buutenks but good luck touching Buuhan and Vegetto .
Gokuhan's Base should be "plenty" enough for Bootenks but his SSJ2 isn't enough to touch Boohan?
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I give this to Gokhan easy.

I said this in another Thread, that I have SSJ Gokhan>SSJ3 Vegetto, so I also have Base Gokhan>ASSJ Vegetto.

This is because I do view SSJ3 as a Potential unlock, but I do think logically Gokhan should be Ultimate and not have any SSJ power.

Either way I do view Gokhan>Vegetto either way, but I do view Ultimate Gokhan a lot more power than a Gokhan who can Transform.
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How do we know whether or not Gokhan could go SSJ or not?
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Didn't Old fart say they could transform after?
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Didn't Old fart say they could transform after?
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My question is, does he really know or not, or was he just assuming?

I realize he knows the effects of the Potara, and his ability to release someones Dormant power far beyond it's limits, but does he know what would happen if someone has had that done to them, then use the Potara with a Saiyajin?

It seems like that's never happened before, so does he really know, or is he just assuming he could use SSJ?
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"I am the bone of my sword."

See that's the thing you people need to understand. When a statement in the manga is give, unless it ends up being stated otherwise later on, you need to take it as fact. This isn't like a real life debate where you need to legitimately be able to prove your point. Here, if Goku says Gotenks can defeat Fat Boo...then we take that as fact.

We don't need Goteks to actually take Fat Boo on to prove Goku right, Goku, as well as any other character is allowed the benefit of the doubt until they are actually proven wrong. This is because a character's statement is a way for the Word of God, Toriyama, to get through without having to directly narrate it. So when Old Fart Kaioshin says they can transform, we must take that to fact.

After all, no point in having Toriyama write a piece of a dialogue that is both false nor is it brought into question. Even if Old Kaioshin had been dead wrong due to contradiction, this hasn't changed the intention of the statement.

So there you go, if you can provide an actual contradiction to why Gohkan can't transform the so be it. Although that's not going to stop the intention of what the author has.
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I only ask the question because it seems the Potara not only takes the best of both worlds, but it also takes the most logical from both parties, and the more logical route would be making Gokhan Ultimate, because in the end him using SSJ would end up hurting him. Of course not against any form of Boo, but just overall...especially with SSJ3.

That's my reasoning.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Well you got to understand at this point there really isn't a "Ultimate Gohkan" Like Ultimate Gohan isn't a form, it's just basically Base Gohan with all his potential set to one point. It's not eve Base Gohan anymore...it's just...Gohan. So you can take Gohan and have him fuse with whatever form of Goku is necessary.
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That brings another question...could it kill Gokhan if Kakarrot used the Potara with Gohan as a SSJ3?

Remember, Elder Kaioshin told him not to Fuse as a SSJ, and he was quick to do so...it sounds like it's dangerous.
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Moved to Z discussion.
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This is because a character's statement is a way for the Word of God, Toriyama, to get through without having to directly narrate it.


Since no one said Kid Buu couldn't destroy the universe, does that mean Kid Buu is a universe buster because Goku said the universe would go poof?
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