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| Zoom | Feb 7 2016, 07:09 AM Post #1 |
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Is EA more greedy than CD Red Projects? Witcher 3 first paid dlc cost around $10, EA's two dlc from DA Inquisition (Jaws of Hakkon and The Decent) cost around $30 with less value and game play. Should all developers be like CD Project giving the fans more for their buck or should there be like EA and only worry about money? You need money to fund your games, but the money comes from fans that buy the product. What is your opinion on this? Spoiler: click to toggle Edited by Zoom, Feb 8 2016, 03:19 AM.
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| + Pelador | Feb 7 2016, 01:58 PM Post #2 |
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I think that EA is incredibly greedy, especially if it's true that they recently tried to copyright the word ghost. That being said, I think that dlc should be free since I already paid for the game. Especially the bulls*** day one dlc we get sometimes. |
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| Tinny | Feb 7 2016, 02:26 PM Post #3 |
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Considering CD Red Project gave us like 10 pieces of free dlc that they didn't need to give out, a music cd, and a map with the regular edition of Witcher 3, I would think EA wins almost by default. And I will say that question at the end is a bit biased (would anyone really say they should be like EA or Warner Brothers? They're practically the super villains of game development), but yes, I think generally all companies should be a bit more like CD Red Project in how they operate. They don't need to package music cds with their stuff but I will say that they should generally try to focus on providing a quality experience that people will buy willingly. |
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| + Steve | Feb 7 2016, 03:33 PM Post #4 |
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It's a bit more complicated than what they give you for your money though, can't really say CD Projekt isn't greedy based on one game. Witcher 3 had massive hype, they could easily look at pre-orders and general hype for the game to know they'd make a ton of money, easily enough to cover the cost of the CD and whatnot. It definitely has more value but you wouldn't see that if people weren't interested in the game, most EA games don't have that kind of hype to run games off of so they definitely need more DLC to cover their losses. But they obviously are greedy in many cases though, Battlefront's Season Pass costs like as much as the base game itself and they won't even say what's in it... To everyone that's bought it they can just say "Lol, have 50 emotes there's your season pass" The Sims is a joke also I think there's literally a few thousand dollars of DLC you can buy for nothing all that exceptional. With Battlefield 4 they haven't been greedy the Premium is essentially a season pass and up front they promised 5 map packs, 12 gold battlepacks and a new item every month(usually another gold battlepack or a premium exclusive knife) as well as priority in queues to get in to servers. While quite expensive Premium has been a great deal. |
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| Tinny | Feb 7 2016, 06:47 PM Post #5 |
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It also released few dlc for Witcher 2 iirc, as all as operating the GoG store which overall is much more consumer friendly than than despite not needing to be. Even then, they clearly didn't need to include a soundtrack CD in any case, this is far beyond what EA does. Edited by Tinny, Feb 7 2016, 06:49 PM.
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| + Steve | Feb 7 2016, 10:09 PM Post #6 |
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To be fair, not many EA games are very soundtrack heavy at all Their sports games have the most music in them so far as I know but it's pretty much all just regular music, Witcher 3 has tons of tracks composed for it. A soundtrack for something like Battlefield would be like...2 tracks of pretty much just ambient music. And then Battlefront is obviously standard Star Wars music I doubt there was anything original in there. Not to mention there wouldn't be much point with most of their games. Would an artbook detailing Star War's story even be necessary? They probably wouldn't even be allowed to make it. Would an artbook detailing Battlefi...does Battlefield even have a story? I wouldn't say that alone defines being greedy or being generous, CD Projekt didn't have to do that but they knew they could, it's just good marketing. Who wouldn't be hyped for Witcher 4 knowing they'll most likely get goodies like that? |
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| Tinny | Feb 7 2016, 10:54 PM Post #7 |
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But then why it for Witcher 2? They didn't make nearly the amount of money they made with 3. It's still fairly generous overall. I find the idea that Red could easily and do the same thing as EA is very odd with how they've acted in regards to their games as opposed to what EA does with... Almost if not outright everything. And how it's it good marketing? They don't need to do any of that, they're just wasting money by doing this with the cds and the letters and the level of continued support for both games. It's good marketing to an extent, but let's be honest did you know they supported Witcher 2 with free dlc? Edited by Tinny, Feb 7 2016, 10:57 PM.
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| Fulgore | Feb 8 2016, 01:22 AM Post #8 |
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CD Projekt Red can't even be compared to EA...they're an awesome company |
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| Zoom | Feb 8 2016, 03:20 AM Post #9 |
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Witcher 3 is the most overrated piece of crap game, the combat is rubbish
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| + Steve | Feb 8 2016, 03:41 AM Post #10 |
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Well it was only on the 360 was it not? So it would have been much cheaper to make for one thing. CD's etc etc hardly cost that much to make. I didn't know that because I didn't know Witcher existed until people were talking about 3 It is good marketing, if you're never willing to spend any money you don't have to then gamers aren't going to have much faith in you. How often do you see EA fanboys? I'm not talking "Battelfurunt is teh best game evur!" kind of fanboys but ones who actually defend the company for what it does in general? Versus CD Projekt who people adore now, even us on the PlayStation side who'd never heard of them before. It might garner less money but it grants a lot more faith which a smart businessman would know will see better returns in future. EA probably thought that worked for them with Battlefield 4, that's probably why Hardline was God awful because they knew people would buy it anyway after how much they liked 3 & 4. Perfect example of how to abuse that faith... EDIT I'm confused Gotenks you've posted about it a lot I thought you liked it? I agree about the combat anyway it's terrible unless you're on Death March. Edited by Steve, Feb 8 2016, 03:42 AM.
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| Zoom | Feb 8 2016, 03:55 AM Post #11 |
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I remember you saying you don't play it on death march, you like to play on the second hardest blood and broken bones.?. |
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| Tinny | Feb 8 2016, 04:24 AM Post #12 |
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...Witcher 2 was on the pc as well, what are you talking about? That's still wasted resources, companies are about maximizing profit, not making "eeehh that's enough," amount of money. Right, that kind of puts a hole in the marketing argument if for the most part you didn't even realize they existed until 3, with how they've been doing this before. Really? I think most developer companies provided they don't screw over the consumer generally get trusted if they make good games. This is far beyond that. I see a few here and there actually that defend EA. People will defend anything if they make a game they like. Which CD Projekt Red did. So they didn't need to waste money with a map and music cd, nor did they need to support it with free dlc. There's no real trust that's gained by this, maybe the dlc but just look at the game, they clearly didn't need to do any of this. Do you really think people are adoring them because they sent a nice letter and a cd, and not because they created a game that has been endlessly touted as game of the year? And that translates to sales... How? None of that would have mattered of the game played like the last two did. They wouldn't be hated but no one would be gushing over them like they are now. I can get the money put towards the game being pragmatic, but it only goes so far, certainly not to maps, CDs, and free dlc. If it was going into the quality of the game sure, but it didn't, it went into a cd, a letter, a map. They could have easily sold the soundtrack separately and no one would have so much as blinked, and everyone would have more or less the same opinion. And a smart businessman would know where the line is, and for the most part it's in "create a good game and have consumer friendly practices." The cd is so silly in how unnecessary it is, some of the dlc makes sense, as does the quality that went into it. CDs don't cost much to make, but soundtracks do sell. And would have certainly sold more if they had made a fraction of the cds and sold them separately for more money. ...BF4 was crap until Dice LA fixed the game though. In this case EA didn't even need to make a good game to get goodwill. It can be overrated and loved at the same time (me and Undertale), though yeah I'm surprised he called it crap. Edited by Tinny, Feb 8 2016, 04:25 AM.
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| Zoom | Feb 8 2016, 04:27 AM Post #13 |
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Witcher 2 was solely exclusive to Microsoft or Xbox 360. |
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| Tinny | Feb 8 2016, 04:36 AM Post #14 |
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Microsoft exclusive it has to be then, because I have it right in my steam library.
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| Zoom | Feb 8 2016, 04:39 AM Post #15 |
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Well yeah, Witcher 3 as a game was first on pc, so you would see the entire series on steam, it made it's console debut on the Xbox 360 and only xbox and never made it's way to Ps3. |
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