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Desktop PC Recommendations
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Jan 28 2016, 03:13 AM Post #1
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	As some of you may know, I've been wanting to start a Youtube channel for a while. Just because I think it would be fun, and it's something I've always wanted to do. But I'm beginning to realize that I'll probably need to invest in a desktop PC. Tax season is coming up, so I thought I would spend my tax money on a PC. Ideally, I would need this PC to be compatible with gaming (not super new games or anything, because I'm not really into AAA titles). I would mostly be playing stuff for the SNES, Gameboy, 3DS, Gamecube, indie PC games, etc. I would also need it to be able to render videos for Youtube in 1080p. Is there a desktop PC that you guys would recommend? I definitely do not want to spend too much money. I don't know what the typical price would be for a PC of this caliber, but I'm hoping to keep it well under $1000. Preferably way less than that, actually. As cheap as possible would be nice... Any help is appreciated!



+ Pelador	Jan 28 2016, 03:45 AM Post #2
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Build your own to save a lot of money and get the parts you actually want with no stupid software bundles. It's surprisingly easy. Everything just slots into place. Not sure you will get much to shout about for under $1000. A half decent GPU by itself will cost you about 300. Although this is one of the most expensive parts. Recommended parts. GPU: GTX 970 or Radeon R9 390 CPU: 4th generation intel i5 RAM: Kingston 8GB. (Make sure you aren't buying laptop RAM.) Motherboard: Asus Maximus VII Hero. PSU: Dark Power Pro 11 850W Case: Rosewill B2-Spirit. (Make sure your choice of motherboard fits into the case properly.) That set up should allow you to comfortably record game play at a reasonable price. If you were to buy an already assembled computer of that calibre then it would probably cost you twice as much.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Jan 28 2016, 04:16 AM Post #3
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Yeah, I figured building one would be the best option. I've been wanting to build one anyway. I just have this irrational fear of screwing something up. But I'm sure I'll be fine. Thanks!



Mihawk	Jan 28 2016, 05:05 AM Post #4
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FutureProtagonist	Jan 28 2016, 07:48 AM Post #5
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($143.30 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 R5 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: PNY CS1211 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg) Total: $646.18 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-28 02:40 EST-0500 This is a solid system for playing older games, and as you can see, it's not particularly expensive. The system Pelador recommended probably would be a $1000+ system. -There are some games that may not play nice with it, though. Games that are CPU-heavy and only use 1 or 2 cores will struggle on this, at least compared to other comparable (in price) systems. Games like Skyrim, Oblivion, or Starcraft II are not as well-suited to this system as they could be. Choosing between high core count vs high single core performance is a tough balance right now. The choice of an AMD chipset here is that they're the only company that offers a high core count at that low of a price point, which you'll find useful for multitasking and video rendering. I chose 16GB of RAM over 8GB. You won't find much use if you're just gaming, but if you're doing a lot of CPU, rendering or streaming work in the background, you might find it useful. It's not a huge extra cost either. The video card, a GTX 950, isn't a particularly fast graphics card, but it's more than capable of playing old titles very easily, and is also capable of playing new titles on reduced settings. Oh, and you get a free Final Fantasy Type-0 HD. Yay. I gave you 2TB of mechanical storage (you may want to go for more if you'll be keeping a lot of recordings around) and 240GB SSD for a boot drive, and also something that can make games snappier if installed on it. The system is easily expandable, with the case providing room for 4 mechanical hard drives and 4 SSDs. The motherboard, however, only supports 6 drives on any persuasion, but that should be plenty. If you ever want a beefier graphics card, that can be easily arranged with a much higher-end GTX 970 easily fitting within the 500W power draw limit. If you're looking to cut costs, switching the FX-8320 for an FX-6300 can save you about $50, albeit at the cost of two CPU cores. You don't need an SSD, but I do recommend it, and if you really need to, you can 8GB of RAM for about half the price of 16GB, and that's enough for most things. Here is the "minimal" system: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 R5 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg) Total: $509.88 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-28 02:55 EST-0500 Which is still a very reasonable gaming system, just fewer bells and whistles. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Jan 28 2016, 07:57 AM.
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+ Pelador	Jan 28 2016, 12:53 PM Post #6
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I heard AMD processors were power hungry and less reliable than Intel. 16GB RAM is a waste of money unless you're working for Pixar or something. But then you'd just use a Mac. You don't need a solid state drive. All it does is boot up your computer faster and free up space on your primary hard drive. I'd recommend against purchasing older GPU's that no longer get driver updates. 500 Watt PSU is a bit on the low side. Especially if what I heard abut AMD CPU's is correct. I know most modern GPU's aren't as power hungry as some older models but it's still nice to have that bit extra in the tank. Especially if you have a couple of USB 3.0's on your rig and decide to use an external HDD for storing footage. I don't think this system would be useful for very long.
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FutureProtagonist	Jan 28 2016, 06:54 PM Post #7
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	Pelador I heard AMD processors were power hungry and less reliable than Intel. More power-hungry, perhaps, but no less reliable. They're slower in per-core performance, but the high core count would prove useful to someone dealing with videos. Pelador 16GB RAM is a waste of money unless you're working for Pixar or something. But then you'd just use a Mac. Not precisely; some games are starting to see benefit from 16GB, (Battlefront, Batman Arkham Knight) and it's useful if you want to run multiple tasks at once; i.e., rendering and gaming at the same time. It's only an extra $30 anyway. Pelador You don't need a solid state drive. All it does is boot up your computer faster and free up space on your primary hard drive. No, you don't, but for a mere $60, it's worth it for the faster boot and loading times. Pelador I'd recommend against purchasing older GPU's that no longer get driver updates. The GTX 950 can't possibly qualify as legacy, considering it launched in August 2015. It's newer than the 390 and 970. Pelador 500 Watt PSU is a bit on the low side. Especially if what I heard abut AMD CPU's is correct. I know most modern GPU's aren't as power hungry as some older models but it's still nice to have that bit extra in the tank. Especially if you have a couple of USB 3.0's on your rig and decide to use an external HDD for storing footage. It's really not. Everyone overestimates power draw. A system using this video card and a Haswell i7 only drew 140W while playing Battlefront. This one will draw more power, but 500W is still more than enough.. 850W is way overkill, even for the system you posted. PCPartpicker pegs this system as using 333W; 500W is more than 50% extra over what's required. Even overclocked, this system would worked fine, and can support plenty of video card upgrades. Peripherals barely use any power at all. Pelador I don't think this system would be useful for very long. Why not? This system was designed to last as long as possible on the budget. 8 cores, providing similar multicore performance to i5s and i7s, 16GB of RAM, which will last basically forever, lots of expandability and a reliable case. Besides, the requirements were as cheap as possible, and only good at playing old titles, with capability for newer things if necessary. Your system is more of a luxury build, with overclocking, (the motherboard, which is a discontinued product and can only be had for $500) multi-GPU capabilities, and premium products. Mine is more economical, and overall a better value for the kind of the work that's going to be done on it. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Jan 28 2016, 09:14 PM.
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FutureProtagonist	Jan 30 2016, 06:18 AM Post #8
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	If you're looking to buy pre-built, I've found a pretty decent option: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1HMWEH This is a configuration that I customized, it has the following specs: $626 FX-8320 processor GTX 950 graphics card 2 TB mechanical hard drive 8GB RAM 600W power supply It's a mid point between the two systems I posted above, but its price is pretty similar. You're missing out on 8GB of RAM (though the board has room for two more modules) and the SSD (the board still supports 6 storage drives) for the advantage of not having to build it yourself. A few things to note: -Doesn't ship until February 12th at time of posting. I guess it might come sooner, but that's the estimated ship date. -Doesn't come with an OS. If you have a desktop PC right now, you may be able to transfer the license of Windows 7/8/10, but no guarantee. If you don't, I recommend configuring Windows 10 Home for an additional $104. You'd normally pay about $90-100, but this saves you trouble of having to install it yourself. -Comes with some freebies: an entry-level gaming mouse and keyboard (which can be eschewed in favor an internal wi-fi card, headphone set, or mousepad) a free Dirt Rally and a free Heroes of the Storm.
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+ Pelador	Jan 30 2016, 02:26 PM Post #9
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Sorry wrong thread Edited by Pelador, Jan 30 2016, 02:50 PM.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Feb 10 2016, 04:07 PM Post #10
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Thanks for the recs guys. I think I might buy a graphics card with my tax return since that's the most expensive thing. I have a somewhat unrelated question as well, though, and it might sound a bit silly... But what software and hardware would you use if you just want to record your voice for a video? No video, just audio. But I want it to sound good. I know that involves a microphone of some kind, but I would have no idea what to get or what software that entails. Thanks in advance!



+ Pelador	Feb 10 2016, 04:48 PM Post #11
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Cyberlink Wave Editor.
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FutureProtagonist	Feb 10 2016, 07:18 PM Post #12
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	I'm honestly not sure what software you could use to record only sound, but you can buy a decent headset with a decent built in microphone for around $80. I don't stream, but this set are both good headphones and have a decent sounding microphone: http://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-KHX-H3CLW/dp/B00KX3TLF4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1455131489&sr=8-3&keywords=hyperx+cloud I haven't used this personally, but the reviews for it are good, and it's about $30 cheaper. It's a standalone microphone: http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Microphones-Snowball-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B006DIA77E/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1455131639&sr=8-7&keywords=computer+microphone What video card are you thinking about buying, and what kind of PC are you using right now? Edited by FutureProtagonist, Feb 10 2016, 07:18 PM.
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+ Pelador	Feb 10 2016, 08:20 PM Post #13
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Audacity is another I think you can do it with and is free. I think that Windows 10 even has a voice recorder programe too. But Wave Editor has a lot of features.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Feb 11 2016, 03:08 AM Post #14
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I should probably just invest in the whole headset for when I eventually do other things, like gaming videos. I'm not sure though. Both would probably be good options right now. And I just assumed that I would need to use a particular software. So you've used Wave Editor before, Pelador? I was probably just going to get whatever video card you guys recommended. I'm still using a laptop right now, so I was going to just start hoarding PC parts until I had enough to build a PC. I'll buy whatever parts I can with my tax return. Hopefully until then my laptop will be able to run these softwares and edit videos. If not, I'll have to wait until I collect all the parts. lol This is all new to me, but it's something I really want to do. Hopefully I can get some help from you guys. I appreciate everything already.



+ Pelador	Feb 11 2016, 03:11 AM Post #15
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Yeah I used wave editor to record myself singing since I thought that my facial expressions would look stupid.
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