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Super Episode 26 (10 January 2016)
Topic Started: Jan 10 2016, 12:31 AM (21,198 Views)
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It also takes concentration to not rip your body up. This Goku to me doesn't have the focus to manage kaioken with his power
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Jan 10 2016, 10:30 AM
Freeza at the point couldn't hurt Goku and Goku would know if Freeza was going to attack someone he could sense the intentions just like he did against Trunks.

You guys are really pushing for problems that aren't there,the show handled the scene much better than the movie

It was much worse in the movie
I agree with this. I actually liked the way they did the scene where they to cut to silence, they built it up, and stuff

BUT WHAT THE f***?!

This was literally making me pissed. I wanted to punch my screen. I seriously did really want to. Literally 90% of time it looked like s***. The art the animation the fighting the damage to the environment was that supposed to a mountain goku punched him through because it looked a piece of cardboard. And no one inch punch of f***ing course. When the animation and art limits what they can do with the fight scenes this much it's just sad and very hard to enjoy without getting angry. The next episode is called conclusive kamehameha. Vegeta doesn't kill him? Youve got to be f***ing kidding me toei. You need to sell dragon ball to a company who knows what they're doing and actually has the respect and budget for the series that it deserves

I did think of this just now though. BOG came out a while ago. The filler episodes are stuff we've never seen before. Most of those episodes looked decent and sometimes pretty nice. RF is pretty new still so that's probably why they cut corners all over the place and it looks like s*** compared to the rest of the series and they said there's no point in trying too hard here. So I'm predicting the coming episodes to be decent. It would also mean the people at toei animation have a brain but that's why this theory is a bit of a stretch

God I never thought a series can be this inconsistent in quality

And what the f*** was goku holding back for? Didn't he say in the beginning of the fight he wasn't excited about fighting him and he just wanted to beat him quick?

"f*** YOU TOEI f*** YOU!" That's what I was thinking the whole time

I know this is a harsh comment actually f*** it no it's not it's not harsh enough f*** YOU TOEI. Thank you. Thank you for s***ting on my favorite series and character of all time
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Jan 10 2016, 03:47 PM
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Wouldn't it make him stronger though? Not like it'll strain that bad or at all....SSJ is a 50x increase correct? Of SSGSSG is closer too "base form" like say 2x. Couldn't Goku just use Kaioken x10?

Math confusing....
No because Super Saiyan God is as far as Goku can go. It's why they don't bother using Super Saiyan 2 or 3.
But doesn't Kaioken push you belong the limits? I don't get it....DB never been a,series with a power limit.
Since when has Kaioken pushed the user beyond their limit? It likely relies on the latent energy of it's user, just like everything else.
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Wouldn't it make him stronger though? Not like it'll strain that bad or at all....SSJ is a 50x increase correct? Of SSGSSG is closer too "base form" like say 2x. Couldn't Goku just use Kaioken x10?

Math confusing....
No because Super Saiyan God is as far as Goku can go. It's why they don't bother using Super Saiyan 2 or 3.
But doesn't Kaioken push you belong the limits? I don't get it....DB never been a,series with a power limit.
Since when has Kaioken pushed the user beyond their limit? It likely relies on the latent energy of it's user, just like everything else.
Yup plus it requires that every ounce of power is controlled and amped. As a saiyan beyond god i doubt thatd still be possible with all that unnatural power,even mystic form would likely make it impossible. With Ssb its even more impossible because they have to boost their ki while not letting it leak, something about as complex as kaoiken regarding ki control. Its likely king kai couldn't use kaoiken cause he's a god.


Just watched the episode subbed too and i think it was pretty awesome,of course there's room for improvement art wise but im not complaining since im watching for free, I'll complain when i get a dvd set and at that point it won't be required.
Like how Goku was held back and strategically took a beating for a while
Like how they made Goku have his gaurd down in his base form
And i like how this episode gives goku some pretty good durability feats and it proves the gap between golden freeza and ssb goku is not even as large as a dodoria/vegeta, super vegeta/cell,etc. Gap which leaves no contradiction in the 6/10/15 numbers toryama gave us(they were not bog exclusive since this statement wasnt in the movie itself)
One thing i hate is the removal of the one inch punch but it is funny seeing goku clock freeza on the head.
Also i loved the way goku countered freezas tail choke
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Freeza at the point couldn't hurt Goku and Goku would know if Freeza was going to attack someone he could sense the intentions just like he did against Trunks.

You guys are really pushing for problems that aren't there,the show handled the scene much better than the movie

It was much worse in the movie
What was the point of dropping out of Base? He was either going to let Freeza go again or he'd just have to power back up to finish him off. It makes no sense whatsoever. And blocking an attack aimed at himself is completely different from blocking an attack aimed at Krillin or Gohan.

Edit: Is Freeza an idiot then? He was seemingly confident in his ability to fight Base Vegeta.
Freeza can't sense power and he's a villain who overrates himself. Fp cell thought he could hurt gohan
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Freeza at the point couldn't hurt Goku and Goku would know if Freeza was going to attack someone he could sense the intentions just like he did against Trunks.

You guys are really pushing for problems that aren't there,the show handled the scene much better than the movie

It was much worse in the movie
What was the point of dropping out of Base? He was either going to let Freeza go again or he'd just have to power back up to finish him off. It makes no sense whatsoever. And blocking an attack aimed at himself is completely different from blocking an attack aimed at Krillin or Gohan.

Edit: Is Freeza an idiot then? He was seemingly confident in his ability to fight Base Vegeta.
Freeza can't sense power and he's a villain who overrates himself. Fp cell thought he could hurt gohan
Freeza can sense power in Super. He straight up said "Based on the power I'm sensing" last episode. Presumably he learned how to in the 4 months of training.
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Jan 10 2016, 10:30 AM
Freeza at the point couldn't hurt Goku and Goku would know if Freeza was going to attack someone he could sense the intentions just like he did against Trunks.

You guys are really pushing for problems that aren't there,the show handled the scene much better than the movie

It was much worse in the movie
What was the point of dropping out of Base? He was either going to let Freeza go again or he'd just have to power back up to finish him off. It makes no sense whatsoever. And blocking an attack aimed at himself is completely different from blocking an attack aimed at Krillin or Gohan.

Edit: Is Freeza an idiot then? He was seemingly confident in his ability to fight Base Vegeta.
Freeza can't sense power and he's a villain who overrates himself. Fp cell thought he could hurt gohan
Freeza can sense power in Super. He straight up said "Based on the power I'm sensing" last episode. Presumably he learned how to in the 4 months of training.
That has to be a bad translation. Freeza can't sense god ki and he could've been referring to himself. And he attacked ssb goku in base form smfh. That had to be a bad translation. For f*** sake nobody else can even sense him
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Wouldn't it make him stronger though? Not like it'll strain that bad or at all....SSJ is a 50x increase correct? Of SSGSSG is closer too "base form" like say 2x. Couldn't Goku just use Kaioken x10?

Math confusing....
No because Super Saiyan God is as far as Goku can go. It's why they don't bother using Super Saiyan 2 or 3.
But doesn't Kaioken push you belong the limits? I don't get it....DB never been a,series with a power limit.
Since when has Kaioken pushed the user beyond their limit? It likely relies on the latent energy of it's user, just like everything else.
I mean I just thought it always did. X20 being 20 times your maximum limit.
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That doesn't appear to be the case.
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Jan 10 2016, 10:30 AM
Freeza at the point couldn't hurt Goku and Goku would know if Freeza was going to attack someone he could sense the intentions just like he did against Trunks.

You guys are really pushing for problems that aren't there,the show handled the scene much better than the movie

It was much worse in the movie
What was the point of dropping out of Base? He was either going to let Freeza go again or he'd just have to power back up to finish him off. It makes no sense whatsoever. And blocking an attack aimed at himself is completely different from blocking an attack aimed at Krillin or Gohan.

Edit: Is Freeza an idiot then? He was seemingly confident in his ability to fight Base Vegeta.
Freeza can't sense power and he's a villain who overrates himself. Fp cell thought he could hurt gohan
Freeza can sense power in Super. He straight up said "Based on the power I'm sensing" last episode. Presumably he learned how to in the 4 months of training.
That has to be a bad translation. Freeza can't sense god ki and he could've been referring to himself. And he attacked ssb goku in base form smfh. That had to be a bad translation. For f*** sake nobody else can even sense him
'God Ki' is just the same as regular Ki, all you have to do is be strong enough and then you're suddenly in that realm, right?
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Freeza's confidence at beating base Vegeta doesn't mean much since Vegeta could have been hiding his maximum base power the whole time. He transformed into ssjb to show Freeza that this time he IS a super saiyan. He didn't necessarily need the power, just wanted Freeza to know exactly where Vegeta stood, atop the saiyans once again.

Goku lowering his guard is his pride. He doesn't show pride on the surface as much as Vegeta but he's signalling to Freeza that the fight is over and Freeza is no longer a threat, hoping he will leave and he won't have to kill him (so that he can fight him again).

The animation is really annoying. Watching One Punch Man and then being subjected to this from such a popular, mainstream anime is infuriating.

Goku, not noticing Freeza's weakness seems out of character too. When it comes to ki manipulation and fighting prowess Goku has always been ahead of Vegeta thanks to his many masters and range of training experiences. he figured out full power ssj and Vegeta didn't. I always thought Vegeta's strategical mind played into planning before a battle rather than adapting in an actual fight.
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Freeza's confidence at beating base Vegeta doesn't mean much since Vegeta could have been hiding his maximum base power the whole time. He transformed into ssjb to show Freeza that this time he IS a super saiyan. He didn't necessarily need the power, just wanted Freeza to know exactly where Vegeta stood, atop the saiyans once again.

Goku lowering his guard is his pride. He doesn't show pride on the surface as much as Vegeta but he's signalling to Freeza that the fight is over and Freeza is no longer a threat, hoping he will leave and he won't have to kill him (so that he can fight him again).

The animation is really annoying. Watching One Punch Man and then being subjected to this from such a popular, mainstream anime is infuriating.

Goku, not noticing Freeza's weakness seems out of character too. When it comes to ki manipulation and fighting prowess Goku has always been ahead of Vegeta thanks to his many masters and range of training experiences. he figured out full power ssj and Vegeta didn't. I always thought Vegeta's strategical mind played into planning before a battle rather than adapting in an actual fight.
I thought Goku didn't want to fight Freeza in Super though. Him letting his guard down and giving Freeza the opportunity to flee and come back again would be totally inconsisten, wouldn't it?
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Freeza at the point couldn't hurt Goku and Goku would know if Freeza was going to attack someone he could sense the intentions just like he did against Trunks.

You guys are really pushing for problems that aren't there,the show handled the scene much better than the movie

It was much worse in the movie
What was the point of dropping out of Base? He was either going to let Freeza go again or he'd just have to power back up to finish him off. It makes no sense whatsoever. And blocking an attack aimed at himself is completely different from blocking an attack aimed at Krillin or Gohan.

Edit: Is Freeza an idiot then? He was seemingly confident in his ability to fight Base Vegeta.
Freeza can't sense power and he's a villain who overrates himself. Fp cell thought he could hurt gohan
Freeza can sense power in Super. He straight up said "Based on the power I'm sensing" last episode. Presumably he learned how to in the 4 months of training.
That has to be a bad translation. Freeza can't sense god ki and he could've been referring to himself. And he attacked ssb goku in base form smfh. That had to be a bad translation. For f*** sake nobody else can even sense him
'God Ki' is just the same as regular Ki, all you have to do is be strong enough and then you're suddenly in that realm, right?
So it would seem. Honestly, Vegeta's power up is very poorly explained and very f***ing stupid because of it. Like, it's implied that Vegeta kept the power he got from said "furious mutation", but like, what the f*** is that furious mutation, and how did Vegeta learn to sense God Ki being a mere mortal? How does he have God Ki without having undergone the ritual? It's just ugh!
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Sorbet should have been the real villain of Resurrection F. He should have just manipulated Freeza into being his glorified muscle; wouldn't have made Freeza any less of a joke than the movie portrayed him, and it might have been actually surprising or engaging. Imagine that.

But no. It's just a movie about Freeza punching people, then reset button, then status quo. The entire movie was so pointless, obvious, and horrible.
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Freeza at the point couldn't hurt Goku and Goku would know if Freeza was going to attack someone he could sense the intentions just like he did against Trunks.

You guys are really pushing for problems that aren't there,the show handled the scene much better than the movie

It was much worse in the movie
What was the point of dropping out of Base? He was either going to let Freeza go again or he'd just have to power back up to finish him off. It makes no sense whatsoever. And blocking an attack aimed at himself is completely different from blocking an attack aimed at Krillin or Gohan.

Edit: Is Freeza an idiot then? He was seemingly confident in his ability to fight Base Vegeta.
Freeza can't sense power and he's a villain who overrates himself. Fp cell thought he could hurt gohan
Freeza can sense power in Super. He straight up said "Based on the power I'm sensing" last episode. Presumably he learned how to in the 4 months of training.
That has to be a bad translation. Freeza can't sense god ki and he could've been referring to himself. And he attacked ssb goku in base form smfh. That had to be a bad translation. For f*** sake nobody else can even sense him
'God Ki' is just the same as regular Ki, all you have to do is be strong enough and then you're suddenly in that realm, right?
NO
King kai has god ki but is weaker than nappa
Vegeta described it as denser. And its fact that it can't be sensed by mortals with the exception of vegeta after training with a god who trains beerus for half a year
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