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majin buu vs superman
Topic Started: Dec 25 2015, 01:02 PM (2,371 Views)
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majin buu vs post crisis superman who wins
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Steve
Dec 26 2015, 02:49 PM
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Dec 26 2015, 04:08 AM
Enlighten me on the heat specifics then.

He doesn't have to display a faster ki blast in order to show he can replicate what piccolo did. If you go that route you're making Piccolo essentially having faster and more destructive power then a being who's literally out of his league, that won't work in relation to the fact that stronger characters can easily outpace Piccolo's blast. If you think it's inconsistent, then that little moment too was a inconsistency.

Fast moves? So the ray gun is superior to the Death Beam now?

Or the feat isn't what people think/shouldn't be counted 'cause it's inconsistent.

You can't base DBZ speed of DB when s*** tons of stuff in DBZ makes the DB feat the inconsistent one.
Goku going 10,000km in a second or two being amazing.
Characters being late ever.
People dodging energy blasts when they're clearly not that fast.
The Kid Buu thing.
Super Buu taking ages to catch up to Goku and Vegeta, a distance that could at absolute best be about 20,000km.

DB has
The Solar Flare thing
The moon blast
And Popo's "lightning" comment if you take it literally.


Why should the older, out of date series with far less high speed related feats be taken as law for the series when so much more discounts it as mere inconsistency?

Energy attacks generally appear to be slower, hence why they miss most of the time and are pretty much useless, unless you're far more powerful than someone or are using it to combat anothers technique.
Obviously Goku could have just dodged Galic Gun but that would have meant the Earth being destroyed.


EDIT I think we should just ignore Super really, it turns epic beasts of destruction in to dribbling babies with barely enough strength to keep their head up.

But if we were to go in to that, could probably be related to God Ki bypassing magic. Like Buu no longer just has his body smushed about he feels the hit.

Like when a Logia in One Piece is hit by Haki, kinda.
I'm not saying anything should be counted but you declaring they're slow is just what you think if they were that slow then there should be no point at all if they're slow as snails.

You act as if comics are impervious to inconsistencies which is not the case. And I'm never said they were fast as light, I only mentioned Piccolo's blast cause you trying to make their blasts slow as s***.
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Dec 26 2015, 04:28 PM
BFR(battlefield removal) isn't allowed I hope you guys realize that
I'm sorry, is that mentioned in the OP?
Well look at that, it's not.
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Could've swore it was a rule for other versus in general
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Dec 26 2015, 07:05 PM
Could've swore it was a rule for other versus in general
It's not a rule.
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Dec 26 2015, 07:22 PM
Ssj3vegito96
Dec 26 2015, 07:05 PM
Could've swore it was a rule for other versus in general
It's not a rule.
Tell 'im, bro!
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Dec 26 2015, 04:23 PM
Superman being weak to magic used as an argument here is ridiculous. He defeated a sorcerer with enough power to beat the entire Justice League, a sorcerer that is certainly more powerful than Boo. Superman's heat vision can reach temperatures hotter than the Sun, and none of the small ki attacks displayed by Gotenks or Piccolo would have that much heat on them.

Superman's speed helps him a lot here, aside from how tough he is, he'll just throw Boo inside a star before he realizes what's going on.
I'm just going to skip over the insult :p

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Writer Paul Kupperberg believed that Superman's weakness to magic also meant his powers couldn't work against anything magical in nature. In the New Adventures of Superboy #35, Paul has Superboy turn his heat vision on the Yellow Peri's magic book only to remember his powers can't destroy anything magical. In DC Comics Presents #75, Paul has Superman retreat from a group of magically conjured ghouls and explains to Arion that he had to flee because he's not very effective against anything magical.
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Dec 27 2015, 01:58 AM
Darker
Dec 26 2015, 04:23 PM
Superman being weak to magic used as an argument here is ridiculous. He defeated a sorcerer with enough power to beat the entire Justice League, a sorcerer that is certainly more powerful than Boo. Superman's heat vision can reach temperatures hotter than the Sun, and none of the small ki attacks displayed by Gotenks or Piccolo would have that much heat on them.

Superman's speed helps him a lot here, aside from how tough he is, he'll just throw Boo inside a star before he realizes what's going on.
I'm just going to skip over the insult :p

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Writer Paul Kupperberg believed that Superman's weakness to magic also meant his powers couldn't work against anything magical in nature. In the New Adventures of Superboy #35, Paul has Superboy turn his heat vision on the Yellow Peri's magic book only to remember his powers can't destroy anything magical. In DC Comics Presents #75, Paul has Superman retreat from a group of magically conjured ghouls and explains to Arion that he had to flee because he's not very effective against anything magical.
When did I ever insult anyone?
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Dec 26 2015, 04:36 PM
I'm not saying anything should be counted but you declaring they're slow is just what you think if they were that slow then there should be no point at all if they're slow as snails.

You act as if comics are impervious to inconsistencies which is not the case. And I'm never said they were fast as light, I only mentioned Piccolo's blast cause you trying to make their blasts slow as s***.
But there's more that shows them being relatively slow than fast at the height of their strength so you can't really pick and choose the inconsistent fast feats as the basis of their speed. It's just bad writing but the canon remains the same, more recent events point to them not being all that fast therefore they are not.


Of course comics have their inconsistencies they have multiple writers, completely different stories and such, DB does not it's all one story with one writer.

And again only a handful of blasts have been shown to be fast at all and Kid Buu never used any of them, so my point is that he doesn't have an attack fast enough to hit Superman even if they could possibly kill him.

Wouldn't make sense if the characters were relatively slow and the blasts fast yet they barely use them would it?
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So, Superman owns Boo right?
Mmkay.

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Dec 27 2015, 04:01 AM
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Dec 26 2015, 04:36 PM
I'm not saying anything should be counted but you declaring they're slow is just what you think if they were that slow then there should be no point at all if they're slow as snails.

You act as if comics are impervious to inconsistencies which is not the case. And I'm never said they were fast as light, I only mentioned Piccolo's blast cause you trying to make their blasts slow as s***.
But there's more that shows them being relatively slow than fast at the height of their strength so you can't really pick and choose the inconsistent fast feats as the basis of their speed. It's just bad writing but the canon remains the same, more recent events point to them not being all that fast therefore they are not.


Of course comics have their inconsistencies they have multiple writers, completely different stories and such, DB does not it's all one story with one writer.

And again only a handful of blasts have been shown to be fast at all and Kid Buu never used any of them, so my point is that he doesn't have an attack fast enough to hit Superman even if they could possibly kill him.

Wouldn't make sense if the characters were relatively slow and the blasts fast yet they barely use them would it?
Kid Buu blasts are faster and stronger then ANY blast that's beneath his level. I refuse to believe Piccolo during the beginning of Z can conjure up blasts too fast and deadly to kill and blitz Buu with.

They have many writers OK, but that means the current (not literally New 52) continuity is inconsistent almost all the time too when character's sometimes do underwhelming when prior they did an impressive feat or whatever.

If the character's slow then their attack will also be slow to a much superior fighter (Super Saiyan Goku dancing around final form Frieza's Death Beams).

Darker - How Superman gonna own something he can't keep down? What's keeping Buu from stealing his Kryptonian powers and utilizing them against him and messing him up due to it coming from a magical being?
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Dec 27 2015, 02:26 PM
Darker - How Superman gonna own something he can't keep down? What's keeping Buu from stealing his Kryptonian powers and utilizing them against him and messing him up due to it coming from a magical being?
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Not even going to bother with you.
Next time throw an argument that is actually solid.
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Dec 27 2015, 02:29 PM
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Dec 27 2015, 02:26 PM
Darker - How Superman gonna own something he can't keep down? What's keeping Buu from stealing his Kryptonian powers and utilizing them against him and messing him up due to it coming from a magical being?
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Not even going to bother with you.
Next time throw an argument that is actually solid.
You don't even have no argument to dispute what I said, so refrain from posting towards me. Your facepalm gif isn't showing anything except that you have nothing to counter with. Now stand down...👇
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When did Kid Buu steal biological abilities exactly? I don't remember too well but wasn't it mostly ki techniques?

Also Buu can be defeated by punching now virtue of BoG and DBS, just wanna point that out.
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Dec 27 2015, 03:09 PM
When did Kid Buu steal biological abilities exactly? I don't remember too well but wasn't it mostly ki techniques?

Also Buu can be defeated by punching now virtue of BoG and DBS, just wanna point that out.
He stole Instantaneous Movement (as Kid Buu), Telekinesis (Eastern Kaioshin), Vegeta's unnamed attack and the Kamehameha. I was talking more of Superman's ranged attacks like heat vision.

Buu was never really put down, he was just picked apart repeatedly.
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Buu can be beat by brutal physical beating, you don't have to look at Super or the movies, I think the Gotenks vs Super Buu fight pretty much gave it away. Kid Buu might survive an assault for quite some times but eventually he will fall.
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