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Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Topic Started: Dec 17 2015, 09:22 PM (3,800 Views)
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He definitely liked Force Awakens though.
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Jan 11 2016, 02:23 AM
He definitely liked Force Awakens though.
Who are you to talk on my behalf Emmeth?

Or is this ur way of increasing ur post counts?

@ Darker

I've had enough experience over the years to judge a film's quality based upon its pre-release buzz itself.

Meaning, FL poster/teaser/trailer/track-record of maker/actor etc

With that being said, Avatar's hype was mounstrous & during my initial vieweing, felt it fell short of its hype

But after repeated viewing, filled with subtle/low-key moments & a momentous 3rd Act, Avatar more than matches its hype.

The characters were vivid, explored various aspects of the Na'vi & with epic score: wholesome experience

Now, FA never matched 1% of Avatar's visual, storytelling flair

I'd group it easily in Michael Bay films, where fire-works are ALL with horrible premise/plot: Age of Extinction, Revenge of Fallen etc

My 2 cents

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Jan 11 2016, 04:58 AM
Emmeth
Jan 11 2016, 02:23 AM
He definitely liked Force Awakens though.
Who are you to talk on my behalf Emmeth?

Or is this ur way of increasing ur post counts?
Just commenting on how negative you always are. You never like anything, so why should I take it seriously?

Don't blame me of ever trying to increase my post count in such a juvenile way, because I'm not that guy.
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Jan 11 2016, 04:58 AM
Now, FA never matched 1% of Avatar's visual, storytelling flair

I'd group it easily in Michael Bay films, where fire-works are ALL with horrible premise/plot: Age of Extinction, Revenge of Fallen etc

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Seriously? On par with BAY's movies?
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Jan 12 2016, 02:32 AM
Billa
Jan 11 2016, 04:58 AM
Now, FA never matched 1% of Avatar's visual, storytelling flair

I'd group it easily in Michael Bay films, where fire-works are ALL with horrible premise/plot: Age of Extinction, Revenge of Fallen etc

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lulwat

Seriously? On par with BAY's movies?
Yeah. It falls in disposable work category as most Bay films.

FA had good designs. Manga-like. But here's the thing. Except funny one-liners (poppin every 40 min once), NOTHING worked for me. Again. For me.

As much I like Rey (the girl was alluring), Finn, Solo, droids, none of them were relatable/likable. I dont even know dafuq the bad guy's name was?!! Its that forgettable.

@ Emmeth

You know nothin about my taste, so stop acting like one. I prefer complex, yet fun B-grade films with much superior screen-play & direction (most Neeson films), instead of bloated, CGI-crap fest with toilet-tissue plot JUST like Force Awakens, JC, Thor: Dark World, Iron Man 3 etc

If my "likes & dislikes" are as casual as any other member, you wouldnt be bothered to even express my view to Darker. Mind ur bussiness
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It's cool, Billa. You can have whatever opinion you want, I just didn't think your reasons were justified. This is way less CGI-heavy than most films.
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Jan 12 2016, 03:21 AM
It's cool, Billa. You can have whatever opinion you want, I just didn't think your reasons were justified. This is way less CGI-heavy than most films.
Guy, who cares if you think my reasons arent justified? I flat-out pointed out aspects that were absymal in Force Awakens & you choose to remain ignorant

Sayin this film had less CGI is like sayin DB Evolution had no green-screen

You wanna talk abt CGI-less films. Watch Taken, Rogue Nation, John Wick, Source Code etc. Pulsating, grounded thriller with neat direction & fab screenplay. Compared to that, FA falters with garbage screenplay (scenes transition like in 5 year old comic book) & direction goes for a toss with haywire plot points. Finn saving some random guy (see, I dont even know dafuq his name), suddenly Rey saves Finn. Suddenly, they meet Han Solo with some weird animal & after some LOONGG turn of events, once AGAIN, Finn saves Rey, then Rey protects Finn frm black-suited villain for 100'th time. LOL

There you go! Justified reasons
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Well, I don't agree with you. I have seen the other films and they are incomparable to this movie. I understand your opinion, but you have to look at movies in different ways. Some movies need CGI, movies like Star Wars. Even the OT had some special effects. CGI is really cool actually, if it's done right. It definitely was done right here.
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I dunno abt you, but movies arent all about CGI

Solid plot, good casting, cool music. Screen-play & direction is what makes or breaks the film

FA has none of these & you can talk abt CGI all day long. Bye
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Domestic: $760,507,625
Foreign: $2,027,457,462
Total: $2,787,965,087 (in theaters for 238 days/34 weeks)

TFA
Domestic: $812,734,828
Foreign: $921,100,000
Total: $1,733,834,828 (in theaters for 24 days/3.4 weeks so far)

The Force Awakens has 45% of Avatar's total foreign gross in just a tenth of the time, as well as already passing up its domestic gross by around 7% despite the huge time discrepancy. Avatar took a whole 34 weeks to reach its pinnacle, while The Force Awakens is already at over 60% of that with a mere fraction of the time. Who knows if it'll actually reach Avatar's mammoth gross, since even Jurassic World faltered despite its initial boom, but I wouldn't really be surprised if it eventually did. It needs another $1,000,000,000, or a consistent $35,000,000 a week for another 30 weeks, if hopes to reach that level.
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I think the movie done a pretty fantastic job of living up to the legacy as well as overcoming the negativity surrounding the prequels.
People are always going to act like the originals are the best movies ever and that the prequels are the worst and TFA managed to capture some of the old charm but still have some of the "newness" of the prequels.

It wasn't the perfect movie by any means but it has a hell of a lot to live up to with it's fanbase.


It was extremely well balanced between the standard "OMG it's too much like the originals, boring" and "It's way too different they got it all wrong!"
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the movie is not as bad in terms of star wars movies, but it fails horribly before the great classics like godfather and co

The plot and character dialogues are not the best virtue of the force awakens, someone mentioned bay movies.... its not entirely like that but certainly the director used the "retro" feeling and the wow that was amazing effects to overshadow the flaws of the movie.



did better than lucas with the aotc
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Jan 12 2016, 03:17 AM
Yeah. It falls in disposable work category as most Bay films.

FA had good designs. Manga-like. But here's the thing. Except funny one-liners (poppin every 40 min once), NOTHING worked for me. Again. For me.

As much I like Rey (the girl was alluring), Finn, Solo, droids, none of them were relatable/likable. I dont even know dafuq the bad guy's name was?!! Its that forgettable.
Don't you think you're being a bit too harsh on this movie, and that you should give it a second try.
I've seen some of your posts criticizing stuff, you're really good to my eyes and I agree a lot with you. But since I'm partially a Star Wars fanboy, and even if I didn't really like this movie compared to the others, I still think you should think about it a little more.

Just a suggestion.
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I still don't see why people say Godfather is such a good movie, I'm convinced most people who do say that say so just because...it's Godfather, of course it's the best movie ever.

Even if it is like 80 hours long and...really really slow. A "masterpiece" should appeal to way more people.

Something like Star Wars I wouldn't call a masterpiece but it's definitely more appealing in a general sense.


Anyway I still don't see what was supposedly so terrible about the movie and I really wonder what all the people who will probably forever say the OT is better are even asking for, the expectations seem absurdly high as though the OT was flawless but weirdly it's not often you see people go in to specifics about how it "should" be.

I also challenge anyone to find a movie series with consistently good story, movie quality etc etc where the 7th movie hasn't lost any of the magic of the first...
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...how many movies even get to 7? Or four for that matter.
Not to mention this is less 9 moves and more three trilogies set in the same universe.
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