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Super Episode 24 (20 December 2015); Dragon Ball Super Episode 24 English Subbed
Topic Started: Dec 18 2015, 06:18 PM (14,222 Views)
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Dec 20 2015, 08:46 PM
Kai is also a good example how you do a DB show that's not paced like a rancid s***, so the whole "Oh Z dragged its a*** too with pointless stuff" doesn't hold up anymore. We have a version of Z that got rid of most of the pointless stuff and kept in the additional material that added to certain sections.

Besides, this whole mentality of "oh that's just how it is so shut up" is how anyone can get away with anything. So what, when breaking into peoples houses and robbing them blind becomes the standard it'll be wrong to complain about that because robbing is the status quo? f*** that.
What are you even on about? Poorly paced episodes exist in Kai too. Need I remind you that the battle between Goku and Freeza is still 11 f***ing episodes in Kai? The battle between Freeza and Goku will be 3 or 4 in Super. It's hardly comparable. The problem here is 2 things. 1. The action can be slow-paced and uninteresting. 2. We have to wait a week or 2 between each episode. These 2 things compound on each other, making it seem like this show is progressing at a snail's pace, when in reality, the pacing is fine.

I'm not really telling you to shut up, I'm just saying this s*** won't change, and that's the unfortunate truth.
EDIT: I should also probably mention a third thing that compounds in on on the other 2. We've seen all this before, and we're waiting for stuff we haven't seen before in the form of the Universe 6 arc.
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Dec 20 2015, 09:18 PM.
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We had to week or two for Kai as well...

I watched it on nicktoons. Cause imma baws
Edited by QueenTD, Dec 20 2015, 09:08 PM.
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are and animation literally change the feel of everything. you could watch a stickman fight just wiggling their arms like those stereotypical b*** fights, but if you re draw it, replace the stickmen with 2 iconic fictional characters, drawn to perfection, animated perfectly fluid, and add some badass special sound effects and visuals. That little b*** of a stick fight will automatically jump over 10billion ranks up in your book.

So yeah, if Super had better animation. On par with the last two movies, then it would be a hella lot better.
As for movies looking better than the series itself.. well, you can't present s*** in a theater, to people who paid to get tickets to watch the damn thing. But you can however, present mediocre s*** on TV.

But Super isn't even mediocre. it's below average animation and art. it's like 1-6/10. it jumps from 3 to 6 to 1 to 4 to 2 etc.. it's not even consistent.
In Z it may have not been consistent, but it sure as f*** was decent+ at nearly all times. With the exceptions of several scenes that looked worse than Super episode 5.

The only way i could be fine with this lousy animation, is if they are intentionally neglecting the f*** out of it until the universe 6 art, and the universe 6 arc is drawn and animated at least 7/10 and better 90% of the time
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Also regarding the once a week argument.


Most of us are anime fans who watch other series as well. Hulu updates anime once a week or we watch anime once a week as new episodes air.
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Dec 20 2015, 09:06 PM
ekrolo2
Dec 20 2015, 08:46 PM
Kai is also a good example how you do a DB show that's not paced like a rancid s***, so the whole "Oh Z dragged its a*** too with pointless stuff" doesn't hold up anymore. We have a version of Z that got rid of most of the pointless stuff and kept in the additional material that added to certain sections.

Besides, this whole mentality of "oh that's just how it is so shut up" is how anyone can get away with anything. So what, when breaking into peoples houses and robbing them blind becomes the standard it'll be wrong to complain about that because robbing is the status quo? f*** that.
What are you even on about? Poorly paced episodes exist in Kai too. Need I remind you that the battle between Goku and Freeza is still 11 f***ing episodes in Kai? The battle between Freeza and Goku will be 3 or 4 in Super. It's hardly comparable. The problem here is 2 things. 1. The action can be slow-paced and uninteresting. 2. We have to wait a week or 2 between each episode. These 2 things compound on each other, making it seem like this show is progressing at a snail's pace, when in reality, the pacing is fine.

I'm not really telling you to shut up, I'm just saying this s*** won't change, and that's the unfortunate truth.
The fight is still long but really, it lasts a good chunk of time in the manga as well. Z, however, exasturbated the issue by REALLY dragging it out past the breaking point which Kai never did or at least never felt like it did. I do think there could be some merit to bulk watching some episodes but even then, we already have a perfectly paced version of BoG with the movie which the show nearly triples in length with bad Z padding.

The shut up thing is just me commenting on this general mentality of "Oh well Z did X or Y like this so Super doing X and Y exactly like it is okay". It doesn't matter if Z did X or Y really badly, it did it so its okay for Super to repeat it because everyone just assumes people are a-okay with everything Z did.
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Dec 20 2015, 09:12 PM
Also regarding the once a week argument.


Most of us are anime fans who watch other series as well. Hulu updates anime once a week or we watch anime once a week as new episodes air.
You're ignoring the other things that compound on each other, making the pacing seem worse than it actually is.
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Dec 20 2015, 09:17 PM
QueenTD
Dec 20 2015, 09:12 PM
Also regarding the once a week argument.


Most of us are anime fans who watch other series as well. Hulu updates anime once a week or we watch anime once a week as new episodes air.
You're ignoring the other things that compound on each other, making the pacing seem worse than it actually is.
No I didn't. I didn't see that you edited your post lol. I was reading the pre-edited edition.

Edit: Counter! I waited weeks for Kai and that's just Dbz haha. And Kai pulled better ratings and viewership :p
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Dec 20 2015, 09:32 PM
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Dec 20 2015, 09:17 PM
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Dec 20 2015, 09:12 PM
Also regarding the once a week argument.


Most of us are anime fans who watch other series as well. Hulu updates anime once a week or we watch anime once a week as new episodes air.
You're ignoring the other things that compound on each other, making the pacing seem worse than it actually is.
No I didn't. I didn't see that you edited your post lol. I was reading the pre-edited edition.

Edit: Counter! I waited weeks for Kai and that's just Dbz haha. And Kai pulled better ratings and viewership :p
I mentioned the slow action compounds on the week of waiting in my original post.

What does this have to do with anything?
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Lord Vader
Dec 20 2015, 09:36 PM
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Dec 20 2015, 09:32 PM
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QueenTD
Dec 20 2015, 09:12 PM
Also regarding the once a week argument.


Most of us are anime fans who watch other series as well. Hulu updates anime once a week or we watch anime once a week as new episodes air.
You're ignoring the other things that compound on each other, making the pacing seem worse than it actually is.
No I didn't. I didn't see that you edited your post lol. I was reading the pre-edited edition.

Edit: Counter! I waited weeks for Kai and that's just Dbz haha. And Kai pulled better ratings and viewership :p
I mentioned the slow action compounds on the week of waiting in my original post.

What does this have to do with anything?
I'm referring to the edit you made about already seeing it.
Plus the post wasn't meant to be 100% serious.....
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The animation is beyond atrocious. Even in Episode 5, the shots were generally only a few seconds, in this one, they're consistently bad. Goku looks a lot fatter than usual and Freeza's face has grown tiny in relation to his head. Freeza's tail also looks very fat at the base here
The pushing contest that wasted so much time was useless.
Why is Piccolo in trouble from a hole in his chest when Cell tearing open a far larger one along with snapping his neck didn't do much?
Are Freeza and Goku billygoats now? I understand Freeza headbutting(alien mechanics) but how is Goku's neck not smashed to pieces by that impact? Freeza isn't that much weaker than him
Why is there more of the bad CGI effects in there? I've already compared it to 4Kids too many times
Did Freeza seriously try an eye poke?
Even Vegeta's animation is weird
Goku does not give a f*** about collateral even when his friends are right there
Why are all the ki attacks so untextured and weak looking? The comet tail effect really makes all the difference. Right now, Cui's attacks look stronger
The Hell is up with Vegeta? He looks like Brock
Blueper Saiyan looks like it has the bad after effects of an anime AMV, what the Hell happened?
And Krillin joins in on the bad animation train
And Gohan too
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Freezer put hole in green man heart. heart go boom. heart make no more blood for green man. green man die.

Cellphone put big hole in green man stomach. green man no die.

Mister Buu thinks this very simple to understand
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Freezer put hole in green man heart. heart go boom. heart make no more blood for green man. green man die.

Cellphone put big hole in green man stomach. green man no die.

Mister Buu thinks this very simple to understand
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Look at the exit wound on that blast, it obliterated his chest
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Could be that Freiza death beam is heat related and it burns causing extra effect. Along with the power differences being bigger
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Dec 20 2015, 10:29 PM
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Freezer put hole in green man heart. heart go boom. heart make no more blood for green man. green man die.

Cellphone put big hole in green man stomach. green man no die.

Mister Buu thinks this very simple to understand
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Look at the exit wound on that blast, it obliterated his chest
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Mr Buu sees lower back go boom boom. no boobie area
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Why not just use the image showing the actual wound?

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