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Lightning feats
Topic Started: Dec 15 2015, 11:35 PM (1,106 Views)
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When someone moves as fast or faster than lightning, what do we make of that? Lightning bolts vary a lot in speed don't they? So it's a pretty vague statement/feat
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And if it has lightning properties there's no actual reason it isn't lightning speed.
Unless, for example, it's dodged by someone who has trouble dodging bullets. That's what Steve is saying, maybe not exactly the "bullets" part (no clue about Fairy Tail), but that's the general idea.

Naruto gives us a perfect example. The lightning generated by Chidori isn't real lightning; it's just lightning shaped/natured chakra. It's distinctly different from the lightning produced by Sasuke's Kirin technique, which is explicitly stated to be real lightning generated by clouds.
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It's worth noting that lightning can also be aim dodged depending on how the lightning is shot. For example, if they pull back their arm and throw the lightning like a spear, they have a lot of obvious tells
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And if it has lightning properties there's no actual reason it isn't lightning speed.
Unless, for example, it's dodged by someone who has trouble dodging bullets. That's what Steve is saying, maybe not exactly the "bullets" part (no clue about Fairy Tail), but that's the general idea.

Naruto gives us a perfect example. The lightning generated by Chidori isn't real lightning; it's just lightning shaped/natured chakra. It's distinctly different from the lightning produced by Sasuke's Kirin technique, which is explicitly stated to be real lightning generated by clouds. That's why we need to examine how lightning (or whatever) is portrayed in the series itself rather than just assuming it's the same as lightning in our world.
But that comes from the properties. Besides Raikiri and Chidori have been explicitly stated to be "visible chakra" since Season 1 by Zabuza. So whether something is lightning or not is different. Like I think Majuub's lightning arrow is just called that, but it's clearly Ki. So we're on the same page there. I'm just saying stuff like "Force Lightning" or Electro's bolts shouldn't be any slower than natural storm lightning.

@Lazer, still that's pretty badass. Being able to dodge lightning. And aim dodging is still calculating the path and trajectory, so that's a pretty legit feat too. Like you gotta move the nanosecond you notice a muscle movement. Well not really, but you get where I'm going with this.
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What if someone shoots real lightning but it's them generating it? Like when aang dodges ozai's Lightning. Is his lightning as powerful as lightning from the sky? It when Spider-Man dodges lightning from electro
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What if someone shoots real lightning but it's them generating it? Like when aang dodges ozai's Lightning. Is his lightning as powerful as lightning from the sky? It when Spider-Man dodges lightning from electro
Depending on their movements to fire it, you can be aim dodging.
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But is real lightning from an individual any slower than lightning from the sky?
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Dec 23 2015, 02:06 AM
But is real lightning from an individual any slower than lightning from the sky?
Case by case basis, but for the most part, it shouldn't be
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Dec 23 2015, 02:00 AM
What if someone shoots real lightning but it's them generating it? Like when aang dodges ozai's Lightning. Is his lightning as powerful as lightning from the sky? It when Spider-Man dodges lightning from electro
You can't compare Electro's electric attacks to real lightning, it's not the same.
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What if someone shoots real lightning but it's them generating it? Like when aang dodges ozai's Lightning. Is his lightning as powerful as lightning from the sky? It when Spider-Man dodges lightning from electro
You can't compare Electro's electric attacks to real lightning, it's not the same.
How is it not the same? Are his electrons different from natural electricity's.
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On sheer electric power? Who knows, maybe, Electro's power is really vague, but I don't think his attacks go as fast as natural lightning because otherwise I doubt Spidey would be able to dodge them.
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Dec 23 2015, 05:51 PM
On sheer electric power? Who knows, maybe, Electro's power is really vague, but I don't think his attacks go as fast as natural lightning because otherwise I doubt Spidey would be able to dodge them.
He has dodged light speed attacks before from Chance
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Dec 23 2015, 05:51 PM
On sheer electric power? Who knows, maybe, Electro's power is really vague, but I don't think his attacks go as fast as natural lightning because otherwise I doubt Spidey would be able to dodge them.
I still have no idea why the change in positive to negative charge would be any different than from what occurs in nature. Besides, like Lazer said, Spidey sense.
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Because it doesn't occur naturally?

In Naruto Amaterasu is by all means "fire" but it can burn actual fire, so it doesn't exactly work like natural fire does it?

Unless explicitly stated to be the same as real lightning then it's speed can come in to question, it's not real therefore it doesn't have to be bound by real world physics. It's lightning 'cause lightning/electricity looks cool and is always a pretty beast power to have.

It's not as though you can run real lightning through your body to make you move faster and have faster reactions, like Killua from HxH so why should any lightning he generates be assumed to be like natural lightning? One of his techniques is literally called Speed of Lightning but he evidently doesn't go as fast as lightning (takes him about 15 mins to travel 40km, stated)
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Yeah but the fire you generate in a lighter isn't naturally occurring either, it's under man made circumstances. But it's still fite. The electricity in your phone for all intents and purposes is man made too, however its still electricity. You need free flowing electrons to generate an electrical stream and high speed kinetic energy to get a flame. Unless you can prove that these electrons are somehow slower than naturally occurring ones, it's tough to believe that they're any different in functionality.
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Dec 24 2015, 09:09 PM
Yeah but the fire you generate in a lighter isn't naturally occurring either, it's under man made circumstances. But it's still fite. The electricity in your phone for all intents and purposes is man made too, however its still electricity. You need free flowing electrons to generate an electrical stream and high speed kinetic energy to get a flame. Unless you can prove that these electrons are somehow slower than naturally occurring ones, it's tough to believe that they're any different in functionality.
That's not exactly the same. The electricity inside households is man-made but it follows the law needed to make it. Some dude launching lightning from his fingertips or whatever is not following the law. So why should it be bound by it?
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