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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 15 2015, 11:35 PM Post #1 | |
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When someone moves as fast or faster than lightning, what do we make of that? Lightning bolts vary a lot in speed don't they? So it's a pretty vague statement/feat | |
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| Mihawk | Dec 16 2015, 12:06 AM Post #2 | |
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True, but you can still have the median as an "ok" estimate. If there's reason to believe it's slower than the median then you can scale it lower and reason to believe it's higher then scale it higher. It's not solid but it's something. | |
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| Tinny | Dec 16 2015, 12:17 AM Post #3 | |
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I think dodging lightning is more or less faster than dodging other things. It means they're fast but how fast is vague, I'd probably do it, mundane<bullets<lightning kind of thing. it's better than other things, but it varies so much that that's about it, and if the opponent showcases some speed feats, that's gonna take more careful consideration. | |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 16 2015, 01:58 AM Post #4 | |
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Is there a reliable website that shows the average or median speed? | |
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| Darker | Dec 16 2015, 06:16 AM Post #5 | |
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Dodging lightning is still a very good feat, because no matter what, a lightning bolt is travelling several thousand miles per second. Here, have a website: http://www.komonews.com/weather/faq/4347976.html |
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| DEY DID DIS 2 ME | Dec 16 2015, 08:31 AM Post #6 | |
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| TheACE | Dec 16 2015, 05:28 PM Post #7 | |
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Attached boy Darker! Science these b***s! |
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| + Steve | Dec 17 2015, 12:25 AM Post #8 | |
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The reliability of it as a feat I'd say only really comes in to question when the "Lightning" is an electricity based attack with an unclear level of speed. Like in Fairy Tail, Laxus uses lightning magic but it sure doesn't seem like it's anywhere close to being that fast and none of the characters are all that fast, at least not where I got. So dodging Laxus' lighting isn't a superb feat as it's not real lightning. And then Kakashi cutting lightning could be deemed dubious as it could have been a jutsu but as the series progresses people like Ay make it clear that lightning level reflexes and speed aren't out of the question at all. If it's legit lightning though then it's great feat of speed and/or reflexes. |
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| TheACE | Dec 17 2015, 01:44 AM Post #9 | |
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So... Steve... why would "artifical lightning" be any different from "real lightning?" Is the charge of protons and electrons somehow handled differently? Are the laws of physics for generating a stream of negatively charged kinetic energy different when it comes from an individual and not a cloud? |
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 17 2015, 01:49 AM Post #10 | |
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Individuals can't generate lightning, which makes any lightning generated by individual suspicious from the start. I can buy that lightning magic isn't real lightning, though I haven't seen Fairy Tail, (nor do I plan to ever) but if it's magic, it can be whatever it wants. By definition, it defies physics. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Dec 17 2015, 01:51 AM.
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| TheACE | Dec 17 2015, 01:52 AM Post #11 | |
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So do a***** with super strength that can deflect bullets with their hands. And fly under their own power. Or blue hedgehogs that can break the sound barrier. Or the fact that a teenage boy is inhabited by an ancient pharaoh that uses black magic from trading cards to warp people's minds. You're letting that go and not the lightning? Nah man, it's all or nothing. You gotta call bulls*** on all of fiction and write it ALL off as plot. Can't pick and choose. Well if it's magic it's ok but if they're part electric eel it's slow as s***. Nah, commit or dont, no cherry picking "impossible." Edited by TheACE, Dec 17 2015, 01:56 AM.
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 17 2015, 01:54 AM Post #12 | |
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Sorry, I don't know what you mean. All I'm saying is magic lightning isn't necessarily real lightning. What's your objection to that? Edited by FutureProtagonist, Dec 17 2015, 01:55 AM.
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| TheACE | Dec 17 2015, 01:57 AM Post #13 | |
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Because it has to be something else. There no reason it isn't real lightning. Positive charge to negative charge, how does magic some how slow down what makes the phenomena in the first place? Balls to the wall man, in or out. |
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 17 2015, 02:00 AM Post #14 | |
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Because magic lightning isn't necessarily positive and negative charges. It's magic. Can real lightning blow a giant hole through your torso? Knock over a building? Blast a hole through a mountain? Don't think so. I'm guessing that lightning magic in Fairy Tale does stuff like that. That alone should disqualify it from being lightning, or just lightning. No you don't. You can examine this stuff on a case-by-case basis. If the lightning magic behaves like real lightning, and/or is described as being real lightning, we can assume that it's real lightning. If it does things that real lightning never could, then we can question whether it's lightning or just magic that looks like lightning. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Dec 17 2015, 02:05 AM.
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| TheACE | Dec 17 2015, 02:08 AM Post #15 | |
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Well I'm the right spot lightning could knock a building down and could blast a hole through a person's chest. But either way, magic is magic. And if it has lightning properties there's no actual reason it isn't lightning speed. There isn't an actual reason that it is lightning speed either, but with a wash like that it's much more.logical to believe that this would act the same as actual lightning and travel the same velocity. As opposed to, this is coming from a person instead of a cloud so the process in which a positive charge flows to a negative charge and projects lightning must be altered because, reasons. That and not all lightning users are magicians or warlocks. Ginji Amano from get backers is explicitly stated to be THE type of Meta human that generates his own electrical fields and currents. How we don't know, but he does. Why would the fact that he's human limit his lightning's speed? Edited by TheACE, Dec 17 2015, 02:12 AM.
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