| We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum. If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away. Click here to Register! If you are having difficulties validating your account please email us at admin@dbzf.co.uk If you're already a member please log in to your account: |
| Super Episode 23 (13 December 2015) | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 13 2015, 03:14 AM (15,827 Views) | |
| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Dec 13 2015, 03:14 AM Post #1 |
|
魔王子
![]()
|
An alright episode. Not going anywhere with Gohan's power up sorta pissed me off, but there were a number of things I enjoyed about this episode -Vegeta and Goku being chased by Beerus after it's revealed that Vegeta and Goku ate all the Pizza in that mysterious dimension. -Vegeta quickly killing Tagoma-Ginyu effortlessly. -Freeza killing all of his men, except Sorbet, by simply powering up. After Goku shows up, Gohan laments that he could have saved Piccolo had he trained. Hopefully that'll go somewhere. Probably not because, you know, Toei. |
![]() Battle Power Guide 3DS FC: 2707-1669-7946 XBL/PSN: MaOujiBejita | |
![]() |
|
| EMIYA | Dec 13 2015, 03:41 AM Post #2 |
|
"I am the bone of my sword."
![]()
|
I hope to Kami this was done in a "Oh no! Come on Piccolo you can't die like this get up! Get up man, you're stronger than this" kind of way and not a "Douche nugget! What are you doing Piccolo, get up!" The fact that they went nowhere with Gohan's anger or Piccolo's death is so disappointing but unremarkable not surprising. What is infuriating is this whole idea that Gohan doesn't train, or hell, just keeps himself in shape or something. Gohan is lamenting over the fact that he's gotten so weak that he can't protect anyone. This is something you should've realized during the Boo Arc where you got so weak you could barely handle the threats thrown at you. You saw Piccolo and Krillin turned to stone, Kibito slaughtered, your girlfriend beaten to a near inch of her life, were nearly killed by Fat Boo and were indirectly responsible for making Vegeta trade his soul and fight Goku which lead to the whole Boo business because you were so weak. And hell, we just went through the whole Beerus business not that long before, where you got the s*** beat out of you. You didn't once think of maybe continuing your training...or doing a f***ing jog for 30 minutes a day? And you know its going to be even worse if Gohan doesn't learn and continues to be a lazy butthole. Also...Ginyu was clearly instrumental to this series. Dragon Ball Super would be nothing without the illustrious Frog Ginyu and switching with Tagoma.
Shut the f*** up Goku. Whether or not Vegeta was in the right, I don't want hear nothing from the guy who murdered trillions across the universe because you wanted a dick measuring contest with Beerus you hypocrite. I am all up for Freeza puncturing a hole in you multiple times. Edited by EMIYA, Dec 13 2015, 03:41 AM.
|
![]() |
|
| Tinny | Dec 13 2015, 04:07 AM Post #3 |
![]() ![]()
|
One could take his sudden interest in preserving life as a retcon of the BoG arc. Long shot but it's not the first time they replaced earlier parts with the movie.
Edited by Tinny, Dec 13 2015, 04:08 AM.
|
![]() Above signature created by Graffiti
| |
![]() |
|
| Zoom | Dec 13 2015, 04:13 AM Post #4 |
![]() ![]()
|
I'm not defending Goku and Beerus dick move, but was there trillions of casualties lost? |
![]() |
|
| Tinny | Dec 13 2015, 04:19 AM Post #5 |
![]() ![]()
|
Planets were destroyed from their shockwaves that nearly destroyed the universe. So is very likely they killed a good portion of the universe with their contest, likely at least trillions. |
![]() Above signature created by Graffiti
| |
![]() |
|
| Zoom | Dec 13 2015, 04:32 AM Post #6 |
![]() ![]()
|
I thought i remember seeing only planets being destroyed. There's like what 8 planets in our solar system, 200 billion stars in our milky way, trillions is a huge number. |
![]() |
|
| EMIYA | Dec 13 2015, 05:07 AM Post #7 |
|
"I am the bone of my sword."
![]()
|
Entire stars were literally being atomized during the scuffle. |
![]() |
|
| Nanho | Dec 13 2015, 05:33 AM Post #8 |
![]()
|
Funny how goku had no problem with vegeta killing pui pui or him himself killing yokan... Its just Toei as usual just dont care about consistency....''its just a children cartoon who gives a..'' This whole show is garbage...really...its clear as day they arent trying to actually ''improve'' on the series or even put much effort in making it look good anymore..just look at the awful animation. its disgusting, that and the obvious inconsistency. Things are suppose to improve in the future not regress....i was actually one of them fans hoping they'd make new episodes, now im just hoping they'll stop now Theyre just trying to make quick money, though, thats all it is, really... Edited by Nanho, Dec 13 2015, 05:40 AM.
|
![]() |
|
| + Clearin | Dec 13 2015, 11:12 AM Post #9 |
![]()
|
I don't think any stars were shown being destroyed. Just a planet. And Goku was trying to stop the shock waves from happening, not purposely create them. Gonna sort this into "the good" and "the bad" because it's much easier to do it like that. The good: +The idea of Goku teleporting to Dende's place with a dead Piccolo and then immediately teleporting away is hilarious. I can only imagine the state of confusion Dende must be in right now. +Goku actually telling Goten and Trunks to leave. He's actually a somewhat responsible father now! +Beerus getting mad at Goku and Vegeta was kinda funny. +The episode isn't out with subs yet, but based on the summary Vegeta gets a pretty cool line before killing Ginyu The bad: -Gohan's rage boosts have been reduced to him being nothing more than a Ki to sense for Goku to use his teleportation move. Since when did Gohan's rage boosts cause him to nearly pass out straight after he was done powering up? -Why does Goku have a moral objection to Vegeta killing now? He hasn't had that since the Freeza saga. I guess it was just a call back for the fans to when he originally stopped Vegeta from killing Ginyu. -Freeza kills most of his army by just powering up. Is that even possible? -Unless Goku and Vegeta train in Whis' staff again, that whole part was pointless. I know they're going to explain that they got SSjGBlue in there, but they could have easily made Goku and Vegeta achieve it on Whis' planet. I don't see why we needed to send them to an alternate dimension for one episode when they hadn't even fully shown off the power they already had. -Ginyu was just underutilised in general. I have no problem with Vegeta killing him so fast, but I do have a problem with the fact he did basically nothing in the first place. Along with Tagoma. There was so much build up, and then...nothing. Pretty much everything from the characters arrival to the battlefield has just been way too underwhelming and rushed. They somehow managed to underutilise EVERY character there, including both the heroes and the villains. They completely destroyed Krillin's character. Piccolo's sacrifice is probably the best moment that came out of it, but even that was done so lamely compared to the Saiyan saga, which is easily comparable since it's basically the same death. |
| |
![]() |
|
| EMIYA | Dec 13 2015, 12:25 PM Post #10 |
|
"I am the bone of my sword."
![]()
|
When Elder Kaioshin first starts talking about how the universe is starting to break up against Goku and Beerus' punch, we're shown a still image of a sun just kind of exploding, or at least the very real implication that the shock wave is going to destroy it. Though it seems I was off on the stars being shown being atomized.![]() Unless we're supposed to say that's a planet. Which is strange because everything else was basically atomized when the shock wave hit. Even still though, the implication is still there, the shock wave was running through the universe and after a few more hits, it would've left the universe void. No matter how you put that down, that's a whole lot of lives lost right there. |
![]() |
|
| + Clearin | Dec 13 2015, 12:41 PM Post #11 |
![]()
|
The clip doesn't actually show anything happening to the star though. The shockwaves pass it and it's just unaffected. That said, this is just a demonstration of what would happen if Goku and Beerus kept it up, I think. The punch shown Elder Kaioshin says all this stuff wasn't counted as one of the three punches later, so I'm pretty sure it's just some visuals to go along with his story. Destroying the universe, and thus all the stars, was the very thing Goku was attempting to stop. The first time he didn't know the shockwaves would happen, the second time he thought he could stop it, and the third time he did stop it. There was never a time when Goku knew that went in with the intention of causing damage. |
| |
![]() |
|
| EMIYA | Dec 13 2015, 12:50 PM Post #12 |
|
"I am the bone of my sword."
![]()
|
Well Goku still did a horrible job at that. As people have noted before, there were several ways Goku could've counteredd against Beerus that didn't revolve around trying to punch him as hard as he could and even still, Goku never reacts in a way that shows he's fearful of the universe's destruction. He's obviously having more fun just fighting Beerus and testing out his power than actually showing any real concern for the destruction of the universe. Had Goku shown any real concern, he'd have tried to stop the fight right there, telling Beerus that too many innocent lives were being killed due to their fight. If Beerus decides that doesn't matter and continues to attack and Goku is forced into a situation where he has to fight, that would be one thing. Unfortunately it is very clear how little thought was put into this whole thing and it just makes Goku look both incompetent and quite morally questionable in his actions. |
![]() |
|
| + Clearin | Dec 13 2015, 12:56 PM Post #13 |
![]()
|
I think Goku's just extremely cocky tbh. It didn't occur to him that he'd fail on the 2nd punch. Goku's cockiness getting the better of him showed up in the Boo saga, and it's pretty much been his major character flaw in the new material. Of course they could have shown him having some kind of reaction to the fact he failed to stop it. Then again, we see a few asteroids been destroyed but that's about it. I don't think any planets were shown being destroyed in the first punch either, so it might just be the case that entire planets won't be damaged until the third punch. Of course, Goku knowing that the second, or even first, punch didn't destroy anything is a problem all on it's own. |
| |
![]() |
|
| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Dec 13 2015, 01:32 PM Post #14 |
|
魔王子
![]()
|
Er, that star is clearly exploding... |
![]() Battle Power Guide 3DS FC: 2707-1669-7946 XBL/PSN: MaOujiBejita | |
![]() |
|
| + Clearin | Dec 13 2015, 01:34 PM Post #15 |
![]()
|
It sure doesn't look like it in motion. But that's likely just to save animation costs/time. It wasn't what happened anyway. This was Elder Kaioshin saying what WOULD happen if they kept it up. The punch being shown here is the one that is supposed to destroy the universe. |
| |
![]() |
|
| 0 users reading this topic | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Dragon Ball Super · Next Topic » |
| Track Topic · E-mail Topic |
4:59 PM Jul 13
|
Theme Designed by McKee91
Powered by ZetaBoards Premium · Privacy Policy


















4:59 PM Jul 13