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SS Trunks (Trunks saga) vs. Future #18
Topic Started: Dec 11 2015, 04:24 AM (606 Views)
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So...who wins?
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#18 is slightly stronger, has infinite stamina and the android barrier. Trunks has no notable skills to give him a chance here.
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Dec 11 2015, 04:28 AM
#18 is slightly stronger, has infinite stamina and the android barrier. Trunks has no notable skills to give him a chance here.
Slightly stronger than Trunks saga Trunks? I thought you were one who placed Future #18 on par with Android arc Vegeta? Unless you're going with Trunks not increasing between the Trunks and Android sagas?
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Canon fight. 18 didn't even need 17, all he managed to do was trim a few loose ends.
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Dec 11 2015, 04:29 AM
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#18 is slightly stronger, has infinite stamina and the android barrier. Trunks has no notable skills to give him a chance here.
Slightly stronger than Trunks saga Trunks? I thought you were one who placed Future #18 on par with Android arc Vegeta? Unless you're going with Trunks not increasing between the Trunks and Android sagas?
Oh right. Well then it's a stomp. Trunks isn't far above 50% #18 if he is at all.
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Under normal circumstances, I'd agree; but there is something I can't seem to counter: why does Trunks place so much emphasis on there being two androids if one alone can stomp him?

Do you think that perhaps Trunks was toyed with by the Future Androids and that they didn't use their full power against him in their first round?
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IDK if Trunks @his debut is any different from when we saw him fight the Future Androids so he pretty much loses here.

I'm also sure that the Future Androids are in the same ballpark as the Android Saga SSJ's and maybe even Android Saga Piccolo.
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Future #18 stomps here... that's not a fair fight. Future Gohan ( 1 Arm ) was not much stronger than Future #17 ( 40% )... And this Trunks is not much stronger than Future Gohan ( 1 Arm ). I have Trunks being ~ 48% of Future #18. In my minimalist list I have Future Trunks ( Trunks Saga ) being ~ 60% of Future #18. Anyway Future #18 would wins this rather easily.

Trunks ( Androids saga ) who is far stronger than Trunks ( Trunks Saga ) was surprised that someone ( Vegeta ) was able to fight evenly with #18.
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Dec 11 2015, 05:59 PM
Under normal circumstances, I'd agree; but there is something I can't seem to counter: why does Trunks place so much emphasis on there being two androids if one alone can stomp him?

Do you think that perhaps Trunks was toyed with by the Future Androids and that they didn't use their full power against him in their first round?
Naturally, they're toying with him if he's still alive. He's under the impression that he's escaping from them because he's powerful enough to do so. Obviously, given what happened to Gohan, he's not.

And yes, not using their full power against in him in their first fight is not unlikely, but they did at least use more power than he expected them to have.

Making Trunks on par with full power #18 in his first appearance requires him to either be stronger than Yardrat Goku, by a large margin, or requires Goku to have gained basically nothing over the three year training. It's difficult to believe either of those. Androids holding back, Trunks not being able to accurately gauge their power or any number of variables could prompt Trunks to say what he said. It's not even that definitive. He definitively says that the Androids are tremendously above anything that exists in the world. That's enough for me.
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So...who wins?
If Android arc Vegeta is meant to be on the same level as Future 18, what on earth can Trunks do here?
He isn't supposed to be on the same level as Future #18... That's never said at all.
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