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Gohans level
Topic Started: Dec 9 2015, 06:25 AM (981 Views)
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Okay so it's been made quite clear that Gohan is really weak now.

But where would you place him in the whole Z line?

Gohan while on the floor after eating a Senzu, said he thinks Tagoma was hiding power comparable to his best. (his best as far as i know was when stomping buus face).
He did say that he can't tap into his full power and questioned himself if it was due him slacking off and not training, i'd assume his body is simply too weak to handle it. He hasn't lost his power ( i don't think you can lose your power really.. ) but rather he's so out of shape that he can't use it all. Which imo is also why he kept saying he can't hold his Super Saiyan form very long. He still mastered the form like in the CG, you can't just lose mastery of something can you? But his body is definitely weaker than it was back then.

Also, isn't his "ultimate"/"Mystic" form just his full SSJ2 powers in base? Old kai told him to "do that super saiyan thingy" and so he did, but he was in base. I associate Full power SSJ2 Gohan=Base Gohan both of which are after his potential unleash.

In my opinion Base Gohan= Semi Cell>Piccolo ( i guess Piccolos growth rate is simply really slow.. ), SSJ Gohan= Buu saga SSJ2's maybe SSJ3 Goku. and SSJ2 at his "ultimate" level or slightly weaker.
The preview for episode 23 says that Gohans pushing himself too far and that his body can't handle it. So i guess he will go Super Saiyan 2, and holding that amount of power in his out of shape body will be like Goku using Kaioken x3-4 on Vegeta and will stress his body immensely.

Am I pushing it by saying that?
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I don't think Gohan is weaker, he just needs Super Saiyan to access his full power.
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Also, isn't his "ultimate"/"Mystic" form just his full SSJ2 powers in base?
No, he was far beyond that.

He pretty much gave Super Buu a beatdown, and Super Buu was much stronger than SSJ3 Goku, who was stronger than SSJ2 Gohan.
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Okay so it's been made quite clear that Gohan is really weak now.

But where would you place him in the whole Z line?

Gohan while on the floor after eating a Senzu, said he thinks Tagoma was hiding power comparable to his best. (his best as far as i know was when stomping buus face).
He did say that he can't tap into his full power and questioned himself if it was due him slacking off and not training, i'd assume his body is simply too weak to handle it. He hasn't lost his power ( i don't think you can lose your power really.. ) but rather he's so out of shape that he can't use it all. Which imo is also why he kept saying he can't hold his Super Saiyan form very long. He still mastered the form like in the CG, you can't just lose mastery of something can you? But his body is definitely weaker than it was back then.

Also, isn't his "ultimate"/"Mystic" form just his full SSJ2 powers in base? Old kai told him to "do that super saiyan thingy" and so he did, but he was in base. I associate Full power SSJ2 Gohan=Base Gohan both of which are after his potential unleash.

In my opinion Base Gohan= Semi Cell>Piccolo ( i guess Piccolos growth rate is simply really slow.. ), SSJ Gohan= Buu saga SSJ2's maybe SSJ3 Goku. and SSJ2 at his "ultimate" level or slightly weaker.
The preview for episode 23 says that Gohans pushing himself too far and that his body can't handle it. So i guess he will go Super Saiyan 2, and holding that amount of power in his out of shape body will be like Goku using Kaioken x3-4 on Vegeta and will stress his body immensely.

Am I pushing it by saying that?
such a huge gain from semi perfect cell super buu. ssj2 is only *4 at minimum so what?


I think gohan's ssj is above of good buu maybe his ssj2 is above post zeta sword ssj2 but still inferior to ssj3 goku

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Dec 9 2015, 05:10 PM
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Dec 9 2015, 06:25 AM
Okay so it's been made quite clear that Gohan is really weak now.

But where would you place him in the whole Z line?

Gohan while on the floor after eating a Senzu, said he thinks Tagoma was hiding power comparable to his best. (his best as far as i know was when stomping buus face).
He did say that he can't tap into his full power and questioned himself if it was due him slacking off and not training, i'd assume his body is simply too weak to handle it. He hasn't lost his power ( i don't think you can lose your power really.. ) but rather he's so out of shape that he can't use it all. Which imo is also why he kept saying he can't hold his Super Saiyan form very long. He still mastered the form like in the CG, you can't just lose mastery of something can you? But his body is definitely weaker than it was back then.

Also, isn't his "ultimate"/"Mystic" form just his full SSJ2 powers in base? Old kai told him to "do that super saiyan thingy" and so he did, but he was in base. I associate Full power SSJ2 Gohan=Base Gohan both of which are after his potential unleash.

In my opinion Base Gohan= Semi Cell>Piccolo ( i guess Piccolos growth rate is simply really slow.. ), SSJ Gohan= Buu saga SSJ2's maybe SSJ3 Goku. and SSJ2 at his "ultimate" level or slightly weaker.
The preview for episode 23 says that Gohans pushing himself too far and that his body can't handle it. So i guess he will go Super Saiyan 2, and holding that amount of power in his out of shape body will be like Goku using Kaioken x3-4 on Vegeta and will stress his body immensely.

Am I pushing it by saying that?
such a huge gain from semi perfect cell super buu. ssj2 is only *4 at minimum so what?


I think gohan's ssj is above of good buu maybe his ssj2 is above post zeta sword ssj2 but still inferior to ssj3 goku
i completely ignore mulitpliers. they aren't reliable ;-;

it just makes sense to me. I randomized the heck out of it. Semi cell is stronger than Piccolo, but still pretty weak, and i wouldn't like to have tagoma as perfect cell. Even though Ginyu is life. I'm not really sure how i even thought of it myself, but i feel like SSJ2 Gohan should be at his ultimate level.
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I have him above gotenks for his hits causing more damage to powered up ginyu tagoma thab gotebks headbutt to tagoma
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Dec 9 2015, 06:51 PM
I have him above gotenks for his hits causing more damage to powered up ginyu tagoma thab gotebks headbutt to tagoma
Gotenks wasn't really serious now was he.. besides, he headbutted Tagoma in the dick, poor guy wasn't gonna get up from that in a billion years
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