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Dragonball super worse than GT; Discussion
Topic Started: Dec 8 2015, 09:34 PM (13,206 Views)
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GT never made me want to bash my face in againt a brick wall like Super has for a majority of its running time. Yes, GT has the exact same problems as Super, but here's the difference. GT already happened, so logically speaking the new show should take a look at what the problems of that were and not do them again!

Hell, at least GT had lots of cool ideas that, even if they weren't executed well all the time still elevated the show for me. Super is basically this: did you like the depth of BoG? Well f*** you, did you hate F for squandering the chance to do a good revenge plot for Freeza? Well its not over yet but spoiler alert, f*** you.
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Super may have its shortcomings, but it feels much more like something Toriyama is involved in. The dialogue and the way powerlevels work is way more in line with Toriyama's work than the debacle that was GT.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

My god, if pot was any blacker than he is now, he'd have to change his name to Kunte Kinte and find his roots.

Like, you people are claiming that GT is worse because of its inconsistent powerlevels, filler, nothing like the original manga, bad dialogue, etc.

You have literally explained all the problems with Super right there and we've only been through 22 episodes right now. I can't help if you people like Super more, but when you act as if GT is the one facing these problems, when its clear Super has filled to the brink with inconsistency, power level problems, bad filler, and terrible dialogue...

Then I'm going to ask you to open a dictionary and look up the word irony and hypocrisy.
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Xfing
Dec 10 2015, 01:27 AM
Super may have its shortcomings, but it feels much more like something Toriyama is involved in. The dialogue and the way powerlevels work is way more in line with Toriyama's work than the debacle that was GT.
Maybe because I love GT...but the dialog in GT came off as far more natural than Super. We'll see in U6,what Toriyama involvement will do for Super.


But rn GT>>>>>>> Super.

I honestly don't see why GT is hated. Dislike maybe. But hated? Nah.

@Dark matter

Why does Super gets a past but not Gt? Simple. Because it's just a series.
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Am I the only one who enjoyed GT for what it was worth?
I haven't seen Super yet, and looking at what people are saying about it, I may avoid it (it looks like they are going Marvel Secret Wars with the plot which is kind of jumping the shark).
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Dec 10 2015, 03:17 AM
Am I the only one who enjoyed GT for what it was worth?
I haven't seen Super yet, and looking at what people are saying about it, I may avoid it (it looks like they are going Marvel Secret Wars with the plot which is kind of jumping the shark).
Psh, Super WISHES it had Secret Wars credibility!
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Super is infinitely times better than GT. GT was a disaster from the very first episode. Other than poor animation at times and poor pacing at times, Super is good while GT never got good till the very end.

Super Saiyan God & SSJ Blue >>> SSJ 4

Beerus & Champs >>> Any GT villain other than maybe Omega Shandon

Vegeta & Goku in Super > them in GT
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Dec 10 2015, 07:25 PM
Super is infinitely times better than GT. GT was a disaster from the very first episode. Other than poor animation at times and poor pacing at times, Super is good while GT never got good till the very end.

Super Saiyan God & SSJ Blue >>> SSJ 4

Beerus & Champs >>> Any GT villain other than maybe Omega Shandon

Vegeta & Goku in Super > them in GT
GT is infinitely times better than Super. Super was a disaster from the third episode. Other than poor animation at times and poor pacing at times, GT is good while Super has never been good.

Ssj4> ssjg and ssjgssj or as I like to call the last one, "player two ssj"

Any villain in GT including the para para brothers >>> Beerus and Champa

Vegeta & Goku in GT > them in Super

Seriously I am baffled, who thinks ssjgssj is a more original and thought out form than ssj4 and why?
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Super Saiyan God Vegeta
Dec 10 2015, 07:25 PM
Super is infinitely times better than GT. GT was a disaster from the very first episode. Other than poor animation at times and poor pacing at times, Super is good while GT never got good till the very end.

Super Saiyan God & SSJ Blue >>> SSJ 4

Beerus & Champs >>> Any GT villain other than maybe Omega Shandon

Vegeta & Goku in Super > them in GT
SSJ4 transformation and design is better than SSG and SS(Post God). Not to mention SS Blue and SSGSS are just bad names lol.

We BARELY seen Champs. And Beerus is only more entertaining than 17.

I find Vegeta boring in Super tbh.

GT to me was a 7.5 but I love it like a 9.
Super is a 6 or 5 and finding it differcult to defend.


BTW Super have not have to 1 good piece of music lol
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Dec 10 2015, 07:40 PM
BTW Super have not have to 1 good piece of music lol
That's subjective. Granted I do agree that most of Super's music has been pretty unremarkable so far, but I do like the music that played during the God ritual, and when Freeza was revived.
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Everything Super Saiyan God Vegeta said was subjective. Seriously, what was even the point in formulating a response to him? I think it's abundantly clear that people who prefer GT have already made their case. No need to reiterate it. Doing so in response to another just makes it seem like you think your position is superior in some way, when in reality it's just an opinion.
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Dec 10 2015, 08:00 PM
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Dec 10 2015, 07:40 PM
BTW Super have not have to 1 good piece of music lol
That's subjective. Granted I do agree that most of Super's music has been pretty unremarkable so far, but I do like the music that played during the God ritual, and when Freeza was revived.
Well yeah it's subjective lol. It's my opinion. Never presented it as fact.

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Seriously, what was even the point in formulating a response to him

To discuss our opinions like we do in many threads here. Similar to how someone will state an opinion on an episode. Then one might reply. Or when I discuss comic books...someone who disagree will step in and say why. You know how many times I had to repeat to Darker why Batman is GOAT?
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Dec 10 2015, 08:19 PM
Everything Super Saiyan God Vegeta said was subjective. Seriously, what was even the point in formulating a response to him? I think it's abundantly clear that people who prefer GT have already made their case. No need to reiterate it. Doing so in response to another just makes it seem like you think your position is superior in some way, when in reality it's just an opinion.
I was trying to show that he's done nothing in particular, everything he said can be applied in reverse, he seems to be stating it as fact and thus I am illustrating that all he's said was state an opinion without anything backing it (and I know he can being up stuff to back it). At the very least he could say why he feels this way, but he hasn't, and thus you can practically copy paste it with only a few changes.
That's why I responded the way I did.
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Dec 10 2015, 08:24 PM
I was trying to show that he's done nothing in particular, everything he said can be applied in reverse, he seems to be stating it as fact and thus I am illustrating that all he's said was state an opinion without anything backing it (and I know he can being up stuff to back it). At the very least he could say why he feels this way, but he hasn't, and thus you can practically copy paste it with only a few changes.
That's why I responded the way I did.
In what way did his opinion come off as if it were a fact? What he said is how he feels.
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To discuss our opinions like we do in many threads here. Similar to how someone will state an opinion on an episode. Then one might reply. Or when I discuss comic books...someone who disagree will step in and say why. You know how many times I had to repeat to Darker why Batman is GOAT?

You aren't discussing anything, you were merely displaying your disagreements. Cool, you disagree with his opinions, what exactly did that add to the conversation? If you wanted a discussion, you should have asked why he felt the way he did, instead of saying, "well, I prefer X, personally." Just stating your disagreements won't encourage discussion. I'd merely read that, go, "ok...?" and move on.
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Dec 10 2015, 08:29 PM
Tin Man
Dec 10 2015, 08:24 PM
I was trying to show that he's done nothing in particular, everything he said can be applied in reverse, he seems to be stating it as fact and thus I am illustrating that all he's said was state an opinion without anything backing it (and I know he can being up stuff to back it). At the very least he could say why he feels this way, but he hasn't, and thus you can practically copy paste it with only a few changes.
That's why I responded the way I did.
In what way did his opinion come off as if it were a fact? What he said is how he feels.
He's done stuff similar to this before, and trends to act like Super being better than gt is an objective fact.

And in any case, regardless of if he was or wasn't, he still could have stood to say why he thinks what he thinks, and > does not supply that. And really you should open with the reasons as to why you feel that way. Promote discussion, Queen TD did that by bringing up points to discuss. Vegeta has not and frankly that's why he got the reply he got from me.
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