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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 8 2015, 01:11 AM Post #31 |
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Yeah every explanation I can think of either doesn't make sense or is ridiculously far fetched |
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| Instant Transmission | Dec 8 2015, 01:16 AM Post #32 |
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New plot rule: Fusion defuses early when not training. Everything will get a plot induced stupidity armor, count on it. Everything |
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| caryslan | Dec 8 2015, 01:24 AM Post #33 |
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Its been explained time and time again that Gohan's loss in power is due to him not training and his body no longer being able to sustain his full power due to being out of shape. So, Gotenks likely has the same problem. Goten and Trunks never trained after Buu and so, they can't sustain the same kind of power that they did during the Buu Saga. Because they never trained, they can't sustain the fusion as a Super Sayian for very long. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 8 2015, 01:28 AM Post #34 |
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So you're saying the stronger the people fusing are, the longer the time limit? Or maybe there's a cap at 30 minutes and it can only go down if they're weak |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 8 2015, 01:28 AM Post #35 |
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If that's the case, then Super should be counted as its own separate entity. Gohan was just fine using SSJ after not training at all for 7 years, so the kids should be just fine as it's been, at most, 5 years or so since the Boo saga. |
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| Instant Transmission | Dec 8 2015, 01:35 AM Post #36 |
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i really want to know how you got to 5 years. |
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| caryslan | Dec 8 2015, 01:44 AM Post #37 |
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The way I understand it is that 30 mins is the cap for a fusion in base form, regardless of if it is successful or not. Transformations that drain the body of energy like Super Sayian 3 lower that time limit due to drawing energy required to sustain the fusion. Also, certain blows that are strong enough can disrupt the fusion and cancel it out(like how Beerus was able to defeat Gotenks and cause him to diffuse.) So, 30 mins is the base time for a fusion with no outside factors disrupting it. But things like Transformations and getting hit by insanely powerful blows can end the fusion early. I know its from GT, but Super Sayian 4 Gogeta had the same problem. Because of the sheer power of Super Sayian 4, it drained the time that the fusion could last, ending it early. Edited by caryslan, Dec 8 2015, 01:46 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 8 2015, 01:54 AM Post #38 |
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Izanagi!
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It seems that Super is following the same timeline as BoG/FnF. At most, it was six years, as BoG happened 5 years after the Boo saga and Vegeta went to train for about 6 months on Beerus' planet, so it's safe to assume it's around that time.
We see that happening with SSJ3 Gotenks, but never with SSJ Gotenks. Even if they got weaker over the gap and couldn't hold the transformation as long, the 30 minute fusion time shouldn't change. |
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| Instant Transmission | Dec 8 2015, 02:05 AM Post #39 |
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i swear to the dolls that tortured Freeza that Super retconed the 5 years and stated some -months- after Buu.. I feel like a Psyduck has been brought into this whole thing and used confusion on everything |
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| Timothy | Dec 8 2015, 02:29 AM Post #40 |
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I have him at light speed since those revolutions were all in one panel and the time lapse occured when he landed. And mfl in combat reflexes due to feats of weaker and scaling |
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| Tinny | Dec 8 2015, 02:39 AM Post #41 |
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He also took a half hour to reach the fight, there's no way he's that fast (now). |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 8 2015, 02:40 AM Post #42 |
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Izanagi!
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So, it took Piccolo almost half an hour to get to where Gotenks was? |
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 8 2015, 03:10 AM Post #43 |
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Quwrof Wrlccywrlir
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That's right. It takes Piccolo half an hour to make it halfway across Earth at most. |
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| Instant Transmission | Dec 8 2015, 03:19 AM Post #44 |
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They seriously need to dedicate an episode or 50 to explain wtf is happening with the power scaling |
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| Timothy | Dec 8 2015, 03:39 AM Post #45 |
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Yes. How's that hard to believe when people have Gotenks pre rosat above ss3 goku who'd severely out speed piccolo. And honestly we know travel speed is plot dependant at times. |
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