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Goku's squatting strength in episode 3
Topic Started: Dec 6 2015, 07:12 PM (3,434 Views)
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So now Goku is doomsday? :rofl:

Talk about exaggeration I never knew Doomsday cared about family and friends and earth
Edited by King Kakarot, Dec 7 2015, 01:17 AM.
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Dec 7 2015, 01:16 AM
So now Goku is doomsday? :rofl:

Talk about exaggeration I never knew Doomsday cared about family and friends and earth
He doesn't, much like Goku, thanks to Super. I fail to see what's funny, he's basically the villain that's just out to kill Superman at this point, at least in the dynamic in versus matches, you could replace him with Doomsday or the Destroyer Armour and little would change.
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If Goku was doomsday he would have killed everyone on Earth after his battle with Beerus because he's alot stronger than everyone.

Instead he stood around and ate with his friends and family and chatted it up.

You saying Goku is doomsday some killing machine that regards no life whatsoever is quite hilarious.

Beerus sphere of Destruction about to hit earth Goku screamed out you can't.Hmm I guess Goku wanted to kill them all himself right :lol

Goku isn't doomsday that's just laughable
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Dec 7 2015, 01:28 AM
If Goku was doomsday he would have killed everyone on Earth after his battle with Beerus because he's alot stronger than everyone.

Instead he stood around and ate with his friends and family and chatted it up.

You saying Goku is doomsday some killing machine that regards no life whatsoever is quite hilarious.

Beerus sphere of Destruction about to hit earth Goku screamed out you can't.Hmm I guess Goku wanted to kill them all himself right :lol

Goku isn't doomsday that's just laughable
The destroyer armour also doesn't want to destroy Earth, your point? You may as well have brought up that he's from Vegeta and not Krypton/Earth. He clearly just lives to fight strong people, without a care to anyone else including his children.

Doesn't change that he'd kill them to test a technique.

He has no regard for life, he'll do literally anything to fight. Quite similar.

He wondered what it was, said he can't, then when Beerus asked if he couldn't he told him to shut up.
YEP CLEARLY HE REALLY CARED ABOUT THE PEOPLE BELOW! He didn't give a crap, he just wanted to prove Beerus wrong. Just got comparison, he admitted in BoG he wasn't staying enough, then gained strength by thinking of his family, and at no point endangered everyone.
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Goku as a Doomsday esque villain would be exceptionally badass, but he is not really that bad, I will admit.

He is callous and uncaring, but not deliberately cruel. It seems more like a disconnect of empathy rather than any kind of deliberate effort, which does give him kind of moral highground here. Goku is a huge blood knight, basically
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I think this a good way of summing up Goku's internal priority queue:

0: Fight strong guys
1: Train
2: Eat
3: Protect earth
4. Take care of family
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About the squatting strength, it's impossible to tell how much those weights weigh. remember that the other king Kai were able to make the weights goku was shadow boxing with heavier without making them bigger

About goku and beerus fighting...

Dodging the punch and grabbing him probably would've been better. If it didn't work, then he would resort to developing the technique to stop collateral damage

He was getting the biggest rush of his life. He wanted a good a fight too

It was a mistake. Get over it. This is goku not superman. He's a fighting machine. A character without flaws is not interesting. Not saying superman isn't interesting I love superman

But he does need to work on it for f***s sake it's been how long since he's had the problem of letting the rush of a battle get to him? I don't think it completely ruined his character though that's going a bit too far
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Dec 7 2015, 03:58 AM.
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Dec 7 2015, 12:40 AM
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Dec 7 2015, 12:31 AM
His character is not destroyed for one instance lmao

He still fought to protect earth everyone makes mistakes

Doesn't discredit every other time he fought to protect earth and his loved ones

If I nitpicked at instances about superheroes doing idiotic things everyones character would be ruined

Edit: Darker knock it off with the Goku v Superman s*** clear you're doing it on purpose
It wasn't just one instance. The first time he got back up to fight again was because he was so excited about Beerus being so strong. Even if you just look at the shockwaves, he should know the effect that the punches colliding would have before they even do so the first time, yet he does it twice. A new technique is obviously more important to him than assuring the safety of his loved ones.

Right, like he abandoned his loved ones yet again. Vegeta left, but he put up with months of spending time with his family and going out for the day with Trunks. Goku, on the other hand, pawned his work off on Goten so he could train and, for some reason, his family just put up with behaviour.

Super hasn't been nice to Goku at all when it comes to being a good character.
But the technique was formed for his loved ones. Without it everybody would be gone and he can't dodge every punch
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His character is not destroyed for one instance lmao

He still fought to protect earth everyone makes mistakes

Doesn't discredit every other time he fought to protect earth and his loved ones

If I nitpicked at instances about superheroes doing idiotic things everyones character would be ruined

Edit: Darker knock it off with the Goku v Superman s*** clear you're doing it on purpose
It wasn't just one instance. The first time he got back up to fight again was because he was so excited about Beerus being so strong. Even if you just look at the shockwaves, he should know the effect that the punches colliding would have before they even do so the first time, yet he does it twice. A new technique is obviously more important to him than assuring the safety of his loved ones.

Right, like he abandoned his loved ones yet again. Vegeta left, but he put up with months of spending time with his family and going out for the day with Trunks. Goku, on the other hand, pawned his work off on Goten so he could train and, for some reason, his family just put up with behaviour.

Super hasn't been nice to Goku at all when it comes to being a good character.
But the technique was formed for his loved ones. Without it everybody would be gone and he can't dodge every punch
He can dodge every one of those punches; you saw them charging their energy and flying towards each other. He didn't need to create that technique at all.
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Dec 7 2015, 03:57 AM
About the squatting strength, it's impossible to tell how much those weights weigh. remember that the other king Kai were able to make the weights goku was shadow boxing with heavier without making them bigger
Dude... They were bigger. FAR bigger.

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You talking about after he made the weights heavier or compared to the weights he was pulling in db super?

They're clearly bigger than the ones he shadow boxed with but I'm saying it's going to really hard to say how heavy they are based on their size. They could be 100 tons or 1000 tons
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What about the weighted clothes goku wears doesnt that count?
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His character is not destroyed for one instance lmao

He still fought to protect earth everyone makes mistakes

Doesn't discredit every other time he fought to protect earth and his loved ones

If I nitpicked at instances about superheroes doing idiotic things everyones character would be ruined

Edit: Darker knock it off with the Goku v Superman s*** clear you're doing it on purpose
It wasn't just one instance. The first time he got back up to fight again was because he was so excited about Beerus being so strong. Even if you just look at the shockwaves, he should know the effect that the punches colliding would have before they even do so the first time, yet he does it twice. A new technique is obviously more important to him than assuring the safety of his loved ones.

Right, like he abandoned his loved ones yet again. Vegeta left, but he put up with months of spending time with his family and going out for the day with Trunks. Goku, on the other hand, pawned his work off on Goten so he could train and, for some reason, his family just put up with behaviour.

Super hasn't been nice to Goku at all when it comes to being a good character.
But the technique was formed for his loved ones. Without it everybody would be gone and he can't dodge every punch
He can dodge every one of those punches; you saw them charging their energy and flying towards each other. He didn't need to create that technique at all.
How do you know. How do you know he can dodge every single attack from someone better than him. It was a smart battle move to learn how to cancel Beerus collateral so he could engage him and close quarter combat. Fights are not won by dodging
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Dec 7 2015, 07:22 PM
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His character is not destroyed for one instance lmao

He still fought to protect earth everyone makes mistakes

Doesn't discredit every other time he fought to protect earth and his loved ones

If I nitpicked at instances about superheroes doing idiotic things everyones character would be ruined

Edit: Darker knock it off with the Goku v Superman s*** clear you're doing it on purpose
It wasn't just one instance. The first time he got back up to fight again was because he was so excited about Beerus being so strong. Even if you just look at the shockwaves, he should know the effect that the punches colliding would have before they even do so the first time, yet he does it twice. A new technique is obviously more important to him than assuring the safety of his loved ones.

Right, like he abandoned his loved ones yet again. Vegeta left, but he put up with months of spending time with his family and going out for the day with Trunks. Goku, on the other hand, pawned his work off on Goten so he could train and, for some reason, his family just put up with behaviour.

Super hasn't been nice to Goku at all when it comes to being a good character.
But the technique was formed for his loved ones. Without it everybody would be gone and he can't dodge every punch
He can dodge every one of those punches; you saw them charging their energy and flying towards each other. He didn't need to create that technique at all.
How do you know. How do you know he can dodge every single attack from someone better than him. It was a smart battle move to learn how to cancel Beerus collateral so he could engage him and close quarter combat. Fights are not won by dodging
You're telling me that Goku, who matched Beerus using those punches, couldn't match him any other way? The signs of those punches were blatantly obvious, and if Goku's able to counter them using his own speed, then he should be able to dodge them just fine. Heck, if he was smart, he would've attacked Beerus with either physical attacks or ki attacks when he was charging up the punch. Instead, he decides to copy him.
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Today I learned that Goku apparently cannot use Instant Transmission to dodge bullrushes
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