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| The BP of Saitama; Raditz?! | |
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| Gearfried | Dec 6 2015, 03:52 PM Post #1 |
 
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You have to watch this. It seems these guys have no idea how strong Saitama is. |
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Dec 7 2015, 11:07 PM Post #46 |
 
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Yeah becuase he loved earth's food why wouldn't he wait for Whis to get it 
He would get over it he's the god of destruction
Yeah he was waiting for Whis to get the food for him it was shown.
........ Obviously the planet explodes if your're ramming through one lmfao and did you miss the scan of beerus being in a point blank planet explosion   
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/volume-f-akira-toriyama-script-comments/ An exploding planet isn't phasing Beerus unless it's done by someone stronger than him Edited by King Kakarot, Dec 7 2015, 11:09 PM.
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| Mihawk | Dec 7 2015, 11:23 PM Post #47 |
 
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Uhh once again dancing around the point. If he loved it that much that he'd control his rage and pride over it he'd just not destroy the planet in the first place. When Beerus first told him to get up he didn't even know the reason Whis was taking so long was because of the food. Shattering and exploding are not the same thing. Visual evidence clearly shows a difference between the two. Beerus is too smart to be taken by such an underhanded trick by Freeza. As Whis explained it was Goku's fighting flaw that allowed that to happen. Beerus had to be inside the bubble too, it wasn't like he was safe from the planet exploding. |
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| Gearfried | Dec 7 2015, 11:25 PM Post #48 |
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See when Kame sennin and Piccolo blow up the moon the feel the wind of the explosion, showing that the moon at that time was smaller and very close to the Dragon World. also when Vegeta was looking for the moon he was just above the clouds looking around to his sides, not up. and the Budoukai 2 intro shown a small and close moon. But, i think Toriyama or someone has changed that now. |
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| + Steve | Dec 7 2015, 11:48 PM Post #49 |
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Why do energy attacks keep getting compared to physical hits? Raditz can blow up the moon, sure. Can he punch it to pieces with one hit? Hell no. Unless you want to imply that they can hit as hard or even as close to as hard as their energy techniques which is...absolute nonsense 'cause why would they ever use energy attacks if they were that useless? Why waste all your energy on Final Flash when you can punch as hard as it hits at little to no Ki cost...? If we're talking about Saitama tanking or punching attacks when we're talking about physical then we need to be comparing physical attacks not energy blasts. It's a lot easier for DB characters to knock away Ki attacks, they have mad Ki defences which is why we see people slap techniques away many times. Throw a mountain at them and the same s*** isn't going to happen they'd have to blow it up or DOGGGGEEEE! (tryna be funny with a reference, just looks like doge, f*** you doge) |
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Dec 7 2015, 11:54 PM Post #50 |
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Feeling the explosion just shows how powerful Piccolo is not to mention things aren't drawn to scale Moon is the same distance unless states otherwise |
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Dec 7 2015, 11:58 PM Post #51 |
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Again split durability makes no sense when they can amp up thier ki into thier fists Kid Goku back in Dragon Ball did the same s***. Edit: Chapter: 160, P13.3 Context: Goku prepares his final attack Goku: “I’m gambling all I’ve got into this fist!” His fists are just as strong as his energy attacks but just lack the AOE Attack potency is the answer to all your problems.But let's play along and say split durability exists how is he Supposed to get by Raditz He's casually above Moon level which would atomize Saitama since he has no answer for those level of attacks. Also since lol calcs aren't allowed where are you getting Saitama's speed from Edited by King Kakarot, Dec 8 2015, 12:08 AM.
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| Mihawk | Dec 8 2015, 12:19 AM Post #52 |
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Saying attack potency is just another way of saying "don't think about the logic, just squeeze it together for max results". There's no evidence for it like split durability. There's evidence for ki concentration but not for punch concentration. That quote doesn't show anything. It doesn't show him using ki. But he did use ki, but there's none in his fist. The ki just multiplies the amount of physical force he can use. |
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Dec 8 2015, 12:24 AM Post #53 |
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Ki concentration is attack potency......... They use ki to amp themselves whether it's physical or energy attacks so I'm not getting your point Edited by King Kakarot, Dec 8 2015, 12:27 AM.
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| + Steve | Dec 8 2015, 12:27 AM Post #54 |
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Then can you explain to us why people get hurt by being smashed in to rocks and stuff? Ki defends against Ki, simple as that. Even if their punches do contain planet busting levels of energy it's negated by their Ki and only the physical hit registers any damage, given that those physical hits are relatively weak until later in to the series... Split durability. I'm pretty sure Toriyama wouldn't be so stupid that he'd not think there'd be consequences to them punching with billions of tons of force or whatever and if they did he'd have made some way to explain why the Earth is still a thing when a single clash at those levels would decimate it. The answer is that they don't hit that hard at all and we've never had any reason to believe that they do. Also when Goku did that it was before the time of aura was it not?(as in before they were constantly around) Could be as simple as an aura. King Piccolo didn't have one thus he didn't have any proper defence against the Ki. If they could concentrate Ki in to their fists to great degree we would certainly see moves like this: Considering energy beams are practically worthless in a fight whereas if you can do the same damage with a punch, against an enemy you can keep up with they'd be forced to block your attack and get f***ed up to some degree. Edited by Steve, Dec 8 2015, 12:28 AM.
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| Mihawk | Dec 8 2015, 12:30 AM Post #55 |
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You can call ki concentration attack potency if you want. Based on the Daiz and evidence Ki concentration is because of the non-physical nature of ki that attacks can be concentrated to not destroy large amounts. It's not that they can't, but they user intentionally can control the ki to not do a lot of damage to the enviornment. If you don't have control over you ki but would like to do a lot of damage you risk killing yourself like Cell or Tenshihan. I know they amp themselves up using ki but they don't use ki as a vantage point inside their physical attacks. It just multiplies their attack, while your post was saying that Goku literally punched with ki. Edited by Mihawk, Dec 8 2015, 12:31 AM.
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Dec 8 2015, 12:33 AM Post #56 |
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Who gets hurt smashing through rocks? You mean people kick them into the rocks and get hurt from the kicks.You think I can pick up a random stone and kill Goku if he's Bloodlusted and standing still lmfao. An aura is the reason why Goku did more damage an aura? Rofl Auras don't mean jack s*** just look at Nappa he didn't have an aura around him and was stronger than when he did have one around him shaking the ground and lighting surrounding him. Edit : so explain to me what level the z fighters physical durability is then? Edited by King Kakarot, Dec 8 2015, 12:35 AM.
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 8 2015, 12:40 AM Post #57 |
 
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Actually they do take damage when they're sent into mountains or whatever. Vegeta was half dead after zarbon threw him into that ground |
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Dec 8 2015, 12:42 AM Post #58 |
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Because its Zarbon who threw him into the ground. ..... You think you can suplex vegeta into the ground and break his neck? Edited by King Kakarot, Dec 8 2015, 12:43 AM.
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| Instant Transmission | Dec 8 2015, 12:46 AM Post #59 |
 
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they can barely survive laser guns, that's their durability level. they can take a punch, but nothing that penetrates. saitama fingers them to death 
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| + Steve | Dec 8 2015, 12:47 AM Post #60 |
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It's potentially possible considering Dabura takes damage from being smacked in to rocks by Buu. He has the mark on his face IIRC from where Buu hit him but also tons of scratches clearly caused by the rocks. Unless DBZ characters can punch people in the face and somehow cause damage all over the bodies. So yeah as late as Buu Saga we still see people get hurt by rocks and s***, not a fantastic amount sure but surely "planet durability" should have them above being scratched by measly rocks? And yet they do get scratched by them. |
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