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Super Episode 22 (06 December 2015)
Topic Started: Dec 6 2015, 03:30 AM (11,690 Views)
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I got it, Gotenks felt like it was the abridged show.
Like we come in Gotenks gets him in the crotch, talks big, and we skip the fight in favour of a joke where they unfuse immediately.
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But seriously, what took Gotenks so long to get to the battlefield? I didn't have subs so I didn't know what they were saying. Did they give an explanation or are we supposed to come up with one?
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If Toriyama and Dragon Ball weren't in full "fun mode" Freeza probably would've smashed the little pricks into the ground. Gohan certainly took his fair share of brutal beatings when he was way younger than what Goten and Trunks are now. But since Toriyama wants everything to be fun now (because fun is a single type of story-telling) we can't have kids getting beaten up, hell, the adults can't get beaten up for real anymore.
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Dec 6 2015, 10:00 PM
But seriously, what took Gotenks so long to get to the battlefield? I didn't have subs so I didn't know what they were saying. Did they give an explanation or are we supposed to come up with one?
No explanation, much like Vegeta's rage boost.
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Izanagi!

*Videl trips over and grazes her knee*
Gohan: KRILLIN! VIDEL NEEDS A SENZU BEAN NOW!
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Dec 6 2015, 10:13 PM
*Videl trips over and grazes her knee*
Gohan: KRILLIN! VIDEL NEEDS A SENZU BEAN NOW!
Krillin: *Shoves 20 in her mouth*

*Meanwhile Gohan gets shot in the heart*

Krillin: Just walk it off.
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I do find it funny that Krillin is the one who hasn't used a bean yet. Gohan has took 1 from Tagoma. Piccolo took one from Tagoma. Roshi and Tien took one from Ginyu. You have to assume Piccolo and Gohan will take one a piece again thanks to frieza.
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ekrolo2
Dec 6 2015, 10:02 PM
If Toriyama and Dragon Ball weren't in full "fun mode" Freeza probably would've smashed the little pricks into the ground. Gohan certainly took his fair share of brutal beatings when he was way younger than what Goten and Trunks are now. But since Toriyama wants everything to be fun now (because fun is a single type of story-telling) we can't have kids getting beaten up, hell, the adults can't get beaten up for real anymore.
What bothered me was that there was no blood dripping from Piccolo's arm when it was broken...I sure miss the real gore from DBZ...
Edited by Megasaiyan, Dec 8 2015, 10:58 AM.
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Dec 6 2015, 10:41 PM
ekrolo2
Dec 6 2015, 10:02 PM
If Toriyama and Dragon Ball weren't in full "fun mode" Freeza probably would've smashed the little pricks into the ground. Gohan certainly took his fair share of brutal beatings when he was way younger than what Goten and Trunks are now. But since Toriyama wants everything to be fun now (because fun is a single type of story-telling) we can't have kids getting beaten up, hell, the adults can't get beaten up for real anymore.
What bothered was that there was no blood dripping from Piccolo's arm when it was broken...I sure miss the real gore from DBZ...
I wouldn't say gore but one thing I liked about Z in comparison to basically every other animated show at the time was that when character got messed up, they looked messed up. It wasn't like Batman TAS or Justice League or Spider-Man where the main characters go through hell and look like they do ordinarily. When everyone got beat the f*** up, they looked like it.

Now its just a few scrapes and that, along with the "fighting choreography" being so wonky looking and lacking impact makes the Super fights boring to watch.
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Kblo247
Dec 6 2015, 10:25 PM
I do find it funny that Krillin is the one who hasn't used a bean yet. Gohan has took 1 from Tagoma. Piccolo took one from Tagoma. Roshi and Tien took one from Ginyu. You have to assume Piccolo and Gohan will take one a piece again thanks to frieza.
Gonna hit on this. Krillin > Illuminati > Tenshinhan confirmed.
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Kblo247
Dec 6 2015, 10:25 PM
I do find it funny that Krillin is the one who hasn't used a bean yet. Gohan has took 1 from Tagoma. Piccolo took one from Tagoma. Roshi and Tien took one from Ginyu. You have to assume Piccolo and Gohan will take one a piece again thanks to frieza.
What I find funny is that Krillin (and Piccolo) was going to jump in and fight Freiza during that Gohan stuff (which was the best part of the episode...damn that sh*t was brutal) one episode after being worried about mooks. Now the moment would have been better if they had actually made Krillin worried about FRIEZA last episode and not the mooks.

What's even funnier is that Roshi is still alive. I can buy Krillin, Tien, Piccolo and Gohan being SOMEWHAT near one another (if they weren't fully powered up) and survive that hit...but Roshi took the same hit and still exists.

Screw it; I'm just ignoring power levels now. It'd be a real shame if Gohan isn't the one to at least force Frieza to transform.

Also, I'm glad that was all that the kids did; I'm guessing the used up too much energy flying there in Super Saiyan to maintain their fusion and that was what caused the defusion; not 30 minutes.

If after this arc, Gohan does not train (I mean, he went through this same power loss against powerful foe back in the Buu saga), and Piccolo (and I'm going to throw Krillin and maybe Tien too into this as well) doesn't get a massive power boost; I'll be really disappointed.

And long live Ginyu.
Edited by Muyasuki, Dec 7 2015, 03:34 AM.
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed that episode. Finally their is a sense of urgency, and getting to see freezas sadistic side was pretty cool. Their was pacing issues and Roshi being there is ridiculous, but I rather liked that episode.
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Verification needed... was Gohan referring to his current state or his mystic state when comparing Tagoma to Gohan's most powerful form?
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ekrolo2
Dec 6 2015, 10:02 PM
If Toriyama and Dragon Ball weren't in full "fun mode" Freeza probably would've smashed the little pricks into the ground. Gohan certainly took his fair share of brutal beatings when he was way younger than what Goten and Trunks are now. But since Toriyama wants everything to be fun now (because fun is a single type of story-telling) we can't have kids getting beaten up, hell, the adults can't get beaten up for real anymore.
I know the term "fun" is subjective, but...

How many people do you know who like to go out for a night on the town of getting tortured to death?
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