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Superman vs saitama
Topic Started: Nov 29 2015, 09:13 PM (5,998 Views)
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This is post crisis superman

They're both planet level in physical attacks. Saitama outpaced someone who is light speed though right? Post crisis superman isn't that fast as far as I've seen

Superman can fly, is smarter, and has heat vision.

Can he beat saitama?
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Dec 1 2015, 04:17 PM
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Dec 1 2015, 04:13 PM
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Dec 1 2015, 02:41 PM
Saitama is like Saiyan arc vegeta noway above that. Supes wins this without any difficult.
N...no...

Show me Vegeta doing anything comparable to jumping from the moon to Earth in 2 panels in physical strength :rofl:
I dont care about physical strength. Seitame might be stronger than Vegeta by raw strength But vegeta blow his head off.

Much like Guy vs Kakashi. Guy has the raw strength, yet got wrecked by Kakashi.


By the same logic Arale would solo everybody until Cell.
Actually in their duels Guy is 51 and Kakashi is like 49 right now, or at least as of the Chunin exams. But that's none of my business.

@ Topic. I believe the tangible evidence presented proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that Superman is the stronger Super Hero in this situation. All in favor?
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Dec 1 2015, 02:40 PM
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Dec 1 2015, 04:30 AM
If it was planet busting then... I think I'm going to give this to saitama.
Sure... Because a simple punch is going to kill Superman.

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You missed the point of what I was saying. Read the whole post. Saitama is casually planet+ level while superman isn't. That's if the blast was planet busting
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Can please stop using lack of evidence as evidence?

"We haven't seen Saitama do what Superman has done before, so therefore Superman is stronger."

That's the kind of flawed logic that gets you a lower IQ score in tests.


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Dec 1 2015, 04:31 PM
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Dec 1 2015, 04:30 AM
If it was planet busting then... I think I'm going to give this to saitama.
Sure... Because a simple punch is going to kill Superman.

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You missed the point of what I was saying. Read the whole post. Saitama is casually planet+ level while superman isn't. That's if the blast was planet busting
Er, yeah, he is.
He can casually shatter planets with his fists, by catching up speed he doesn't shatter them, he PIERCES through them. I already read your whole dumb post of you talking about Superman yet you didn't even bother looking at his feats. Way to speak of a character you know nothing about lol

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And I don't think you realize, but if he wants to, Superman can just phase through his attacks, just like he did with Doomsday or Mongul.

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And as for who's faster, it's not even a freaking contest.

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And remember what they mentioned in Death Battle about him being near Vega then arriving to Earth in a matter of minutes? You know, where he was travelling over a million times the speed of light? That's Post Crisis.

He's also the one who lifted eternity and infinity.

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And the one that carried and threw an entire Solar System.

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He also escaped and survived a DOUBLE black hole.

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So, who wins this again?

The Man of Steel, duh.

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That's a great advertisement for Superman but for all we know, Saitama might be able to do the same feats. We just haven't seen it yet. Like I keep saying, lack of evidence doesn't equal evidence.


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The same goes for any character that hasn't shown full power, like Beerus and Whis, for all we know they could essentially be an equal to TOAA. That doesn't mean we assume they can reach those heights. The lack of evidence isn't evidence, but that doesn't mean we can't gauge from what little we've seen. It's possible that in the future he will be shown to do stuff like that, but until know I'd keep the estimates fairly low. Otherwise I'd be calling Twilight Sparkle when she fought Tirek a moon buster.
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Dec 1 2015, 04:53 PM
The same goes for any character that hasn't shown full power, like Beerus and Whis, for all we know they could essentially be an equal to TOAA. That doesn't mean we assume they can reach those heights. The lack of evidence isn't evidence, but that doesn't mean we can't gauge from what little we've seen. It's possible that in the future he will be shown to do stuff like that, but until know I'd keep the estimates fairly low. Otherwise I'd be calling Twilight Sparkle when she fought Tirek a moon buster.
First, let's not do comparisons again, especially with TOAA. You did it once and it wasn't funny. Second, the clash between Twi and G4 Tirek blew a small landscape, that's barely even close to a freaking hill-busting feat, and it was the result of both dudes' power.

I agree on everything else. Somewhat.
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Dec 1 2015, 04:50 PM
That's a great advertisement for Superman but for all we know, Saitama might be able to do the same feats. We just haven't seen it yet. Like I keep saying, lack of evidence doesn't equal evidence.
Dat baseless arguement. It's too strong! It's overwhelming the facts and evidence that everyone else has so painstakingly put together to prove. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence indeed President Bush. Are you implicating that Saitama does indeed possess weapons of mass destruction?
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I'm saying it can't be ruled out until it's proven otherwise. Have we seen him fight a Superman level opponent yet? I don't think so. Have we even seen him use the slightest bit of effort? Nope. You can't put a limit on unknown. He could literally be the strongest hero in fiction and we wouldn't even know.


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I've seen all those scans and used some of them in the past in the past. I don't use evidence because I don't care to compile a bunch of scans when I'm on my phone at school

I just haven't seen him actually back up his claim about shattering planets casually. I've seen him crack a moon and he strained his hand doing it. So I usually just take his claims with a grain of salt.

Not 100% sure about that scan you posted though. I've seen it but did he actually shatter it in that comic or what happened?
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Dec 1 2015, 05:34 PM
I'm saying it can't be ruled out until it's proven otherwise. Have we seen him fight a Superman level opponent yet? I don't think so. Have we even seen him use the slightest bit of effort? Nope. You can't put a limit on unknown. He could literally be the strongest hero in fiction and we wouldn't even know.
Are you saying this senate should vote FOR occupation of One Punch Man? The Super Smash Brothers should invade and take the Manga immediately? You're putting a lot of supporting characters at risk with these bold claims gentleman. President Pel and Vice President Veggie. The prosecution has proven beyond that shadow of a doubt that the plaintiff, a Mr. Clark Kent, has shown that his abilities are far beyond what your client, Mr. Saitama, can do. And you expect us to believe that all of his feats are casual based on your interpretation of the visual media, which I may add is subjective and therefore biased? Present this forum with concrete evidence or we will vote you out if office!
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Clark Kent hasn't shown his abilities are superior because Saitama hasn't yet shown that his are inferior.

If I bite into a piece of meat as hard as I can, then give it to a lion who barely nibbles at it, does that mean I have the harder bite?


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Dec 1 2015, 05:36 PM
I've seen all those scans and used some of them in the past in the past. I don't use evidence because I don't care to compile a bunch of scans when I'm on my phone at school

I just haven't seen him actually back up his claim about shattering planets casually. I've seen him crack a moon and he strained his hand doing it. So I usually just take his claims with a grain of salt.

Not 100% sure about that scan you posted though. I've seen it but did he actually shatter it in that comic or what happened?
Can you even read the scan? -.-

Now, it's your turn to show me Saitama punching a planet. Let's see his feats, if he's got any that are worth praising him as you have been in this entire thread. Are you one of those that think Goku can beat Superman just because he "could've destroyed a universe"? You must be.
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Dec 1 2015, 05:50 PM
Clark Kent hasn't shown his abilities are superior because Saitama hasn't yet shown that his are inferior.

If I bite into a piece of meat as hard as I can, then give it to a lion who barely nibbles at it, does that mean I have the harder bite?
The difference, Mr President. Is we KNOW for a SCIENTIFIC FACT that a lion bites at nearly 1000 PSI. Versus your bite force of a maximum 200. I broke your metaphor
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I think the outcome would be like this

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New 52 supes feats

Yellow Stellar Radiation Absorption, Superhuman Strength, Superhuman Speed, Superhuman Stamina, Invulnerability, Flight, X-Ray Vision, Microscopic Vision, Telescopic Vision, Heat Vision, Super Breath, Freeze Breath, Super Flare, Superhuman Senses (includes vision, hearing and smell), Superhuman Intelligence, Eidetic Memory, Regenerative Healing Factor, Longevity, formidable brawling skills (as stated by Captain Comet)


Flew from Pluto's orbit to Earth in seconds flew from the edge of the universe to earth in 2 months


Bench pressed the mass of the earth for 5 days continuously while cut off from yellow sunlight and shedding only a single drop of sweat in the process, pushed back a Kryptonite moon, on par with Martian Manhunter)

Survived near a black hole and was stated to have flown through them before returning to Earth. However, it did not at all behave like a real black hole, and he is regularly hurt by beings of his own power level, so it is likely an unquantifiable outlier.)





http://www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/new-52-superman-capability-thread-1628483/

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