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Shooting at Planned Parenthood clinic
Topic Started: Nov 28 2015, 03:09 PM (762 Views)
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Motives are unclear but people against Planned Parenthood in general are trying to say this is justified.

"Planned Parenthood kills undeveloped babies and that's wrong...so killing the people there demonstrates that they're wrong in smart ways!"

How deluded are these people? The economy practically everywhere is terrible due to overpopulation every aborted fetus being added to it would be a nightmare.
I guess shooting people fixes that right?


The people that do these things...they always look crazy don't they? Dead eye kind of crazy.
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I can definitely see their logic; if they genuinely believe abortion is murder, then it makes sense for them to think that people committing murder deserve to be murdered (similar to the death penalty). BUT I disagree completely.

And yeah, they do. I imagine it's because the majority of the time these types of people have been getting crazier and crazier over the years, and it begins to show in their facial expressions and such (completely uneducated guess btw, I don't know if that's possible, but it sounds like it could be true, so that should count for something).
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I don't actually see their point. Killing the one that kills "people" is good? Why? HOW?
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Not necessarily 'good', rather the necessary course of justice. They believe that the taking of a murderer's life is justice being served, eye for an eye and all that.
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Nov 28 2015, 08:27 PM
Not necessarily 'good', rather the necessary course of justice. They believe that the taking of a murderer's life is justice being served, eye for an eye and all that.
I agree with that sentiment entirely but aborting an undeveloped fetus isn't murder so I don't agree with them at all.

People have been saying that if any pregnant women going to get an abortion there got shot they deserved it.

These people think they're the judges on right and wrong and that's hilarious.


Really though even if you consider a fetus to be alive or even a person how is it favourable to kill someone who has thoughts, feelings and connections over something that doesn't? That's just silly.
A fetus won't even know it's dying, a person will feel the terror as their life fades away.

Also still not seeing these sort of people get called terrorists. Hope that changes soon.
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Nov 28 2015, 10:13 PM
Also still not seeing these sort of people get called terrorists. Hope that changes soon.
Currently you can only qualify for that title if you are part of a radical Muslim group, everyone else is just "crazy" which often reinforces negative stereotypes of mental illness in the minds of many people. Which means the people who need help get isolated by society because they are scared of "the crazy" and isolation can breed hatred, leading to problems like shootings. Very complex the brain, it can be manipulated to commit violence in many ways, the difference between a lone shooting and organised terrorists is that one has been isolated, the other has been brain washed (terrorism is just brain washing really...). Anyway, that's a very long aside, mental health treatment is make snails pace advances atleast.

Has the motive of the gunner been made public? Was it because he was against abortions or was it for another reason? Eitherway, it's wrong, abortion isn't murder unless you can prove that there was sentient life, potential of life is not the same as life. There are many reasons for abortion and it's not made easy.
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Nov 29 2015, 12:08 AM
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Nov 28 2015, 10:13 PM
Also still not seeing these sort of people get called terrorists. Hope that changes soon.
Currently you can only qualify for that title if you are part of a radical Muslim group, everyone else is just "crazy" which often reinforces negative stereotypes of mental illness in the minds of many people. Which means the people who need help get isolated by society because they are scared of "the crazy" and isolation can breed hatred, leading to problems like shootings. Very complex the brain, it can be manipulated to commit violence in many ways, the difference between a lone shooting and organised terrorists is that one has been isolated, the other has been brain washed (terrorism is just brain washing really...). Anyway, that's a very long aside, mental health treatment is make snails pace advances atleast.

Has the motive of the gunner been made public? Was it because he was against abortions or was it for another reason? Eitherway, it's wrong, abortion isn't murder unless you can prove that there was sentient life, potential of life is not the same as life. There are many reasons for abortion and it's not made easy.
You're wrong, at least in reference to the USA. Sovereign citizens, for instance are considered terrorist groups by the FBI. That's just an example, there are many others.
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Has the motive of the gunner been made public? Was it because he was against abortions or was it for another reason? Eitherway, it's wrong, abortion isn't murder unless you can prove that there was sentient life, potential of life is not the same as life. There are many reasons for abortion and it's not made easy.
It's not been figured out yet, of course opposing abortion is the main theory not sure the guy has said anything about it at all.

I'd consider him a terrorist if this isn't random he could have been told to do it by someone or a group, making him believe it's right.


Hopefully they don't reveal his name if he has some mental illness as people will fear the "crazy" even more.
Releasing his picture is stupid too what if someone recognizes him? Once you know who someone is you can find out just about anything about them...

Mental health care in America is terrible enough as it is.

Though I suppose the opposite could happen, government may invest more dealing with people who could be brought to doing these things due to mental disorders. Either way the people will hate the crazies even more.
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Nov 29 2015, 12:33 AM
You're wrong, at least in reference to the USA. Sovereign citizens, for instance are considered terrorist groups by the FBI. That's just an example, there are many others.
It was a joke based on what the general public believe, my apologies.
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Thing is, he probably wasn't shooting people who actually performed the abortions. He was most likely shooting secretaries, assistant nurses, or customers. Abortion doctors stay in the back.
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the 3 victims were a police officer, an army veteran, and a mother who was visiting the clinic

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29180458/what-we-know-about-planned-parenthood-shooting-colorado
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