lazerbem

Nov 25 2015, 09:57 PM

The other thread reached the consensus that Morlun could win, but only due to speed and life draining. Now, let's swap him out for his brother. Karn is not as fast as Morlun and not so predisposed to the life drain, but he has that nifty spear and is physically stronger.

The team knows someone is coming, but they aren't sure what. They have to make their judgements solely on his appearance and performance

lazerbem

Nov 26 2015, 02:59 PM

Morlun shredding adamantium was done while he was amped up on Man-Ape's life force. On a regular basis, Karn is stronger as seen by the fact that he can perform a thunder clap. Karn can obviously drain energy without the spear(he does it to the Spider God), the spear is just to weaken things first. Spider sense is faster than complete thoughts, yeah.
By performance, I mean that they'll obviously start learning by the things he does in the fight and can start planning midway through the fight if necessary.

His spear penetrated Cyborg Spider-Man, which means it can pierce some metals. Of course, we don't know what he's made out of. We do, however, know that Karn's spear can impale through the Spider Armor Mark 1, which was a metallic compound capable of stopping bullets. Also worth noting that his spear doesn't just stab, it also pumps the target full of energy. Exactly what energy is never specified, but it's enough energy to be noteworthy in the deaths of several Spiders

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It also obliterated a wall when he flung it at Indian Spider-Man

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Okay, I did not know that, I kind of figured that he just used the spear as a medium to drain the opponent. Didn't know anything about that, how often does he use this "on screen" anyway?

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n any case, I think they'll at least be able to take a few hits without it breaching their aura if it simply better than bullets and able to take down what I assume are stone walls, as Weiss has been flung at a column that broke into three, and Yang herself has been hit through three of them. In any case though if they do get impaled with it that's probably a death sentence, or at least putting them down for the fight, though the member most likely to take him on in CQC also seems the best suited to take said hits.

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If Karn gets to draining before the team is able to put him down he'll likely win, though that seems to be a bit less likely, especially if he usually does it against the stationary/defeated. Overall he is gonna have a harder time than Morlun, even with increased strength and that spear. Morlun can and will OHK anyone he can, Karn doesn't seem the type to skip straight to eating. He's still faster than RWBY but not quite as overwhelmingly so, though again he's still faster.

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I think I'll tentatively give RWBY victory at 6 out of ten. I think RWBY has more ways to kill Karn than Karn has to kill RWBY, though that thunderclap is likely gonna screw things up the times they attack him as a team. they have the highest chance victory if they attack at range and lure him in to a glyph trap, but even if they go in, three of them have bladed weapons, two of which have a way of giving out edged attacks at range. Karn is not to be underestimated however, he is still very strong, though his spear 'n drain/pump isn't nearly as good as Morlune's grab and drain in this instance. Regardless, if he drains, the person he's doing it on will likely die, his thunderclap can help out when he's surrounded in close range, and he's certainly strong enough to beat up anyone in RWBY. I imagine most of them will have something to do with life draining, at least one of the times he wins.

lazerbem

Nov 29 2015, 04:09 AM

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Okay, I did not know that, I kind of figured that he just used the spear as a medium to drain the opponent. Didn't know anything about that, how often does he use this "on screen" anyway?

Those are really the only examples. He loses it for most of the fight against the Spiders and after that, we only see him with it in a battle pose and not actually stabbing or throwing it.

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n any case, I think they'll at least be able to take a few hits without it breaching their aura if it simply better than bullets and able to take down what I assume are stone walls, as Weiss has been flung at a column that broke into three, and Yang herself has been hit through three of them. In any case though if they do get impaled with it that's probably a death sentence, or at least putting them down for the fight, though the member most likely to take him on in CQC also seems the best suited to take said hits.

The spear's reaction to the aura would be odd. Could he pump energy through their aura after hitting it? Like, his spear hits the aura, bounces off, but while it's in contact, he starts bringing in the energy shocks?

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If Karn gets to draining before the team is able to put him down he'll likely win, though that seems to be a bit less likely, especially if he usually does it against the stationary/defeated. Overall he is gonna have a harder time than Morlun, even with increased strength and that spear. Morlun can and will OHK anyone he can, Karn doesn't seem the type to skip straight to eating. He's still faster than RWBY but not quite as overwhelmingly so, though again he's still faster.

Karn's energy draining actually works exceedingly well as a Hail Mary. Against Ai Apec, the spider god, he was in his clutches, had lost his spear, and was having his gut torn open. His immediate reaction to this is sucking Ai Apec dry and killing him. This means he doesn't need to touch you with his hands to drain you, so if he's trapped in a glyph and one of them is too slow in finishing them off, he can and will try to drain them to save himself. You're right that Karn doesn't go right to eating, but he does use it as a last resort weapon, not as a finisher.

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I think I'll tentatively give RWBY victory at 6 out of ten. I think RWBY has more ways to kill Karn than Karn has to kill RWBY, though that thunderclap is likely gonna screw things up the times they attack him as a team. they have the highest chance victory if they attack at range and lure him in to a glyph trap, but even if they go in, three of them have bladed weapons, two of which have a way of giving out edged attacks at range. Karn is not to be underestimated however, he is still very strong, though his spear 'n drain/pump isn't nearly as good as Morlune's grab and drain in this instance. Regardless, if he drains, the person he's doing it on will likely die, his thunderclap can help out when he's surrounded in close range, and he's certainly strong enough to beat up anyone in RWBY. I imagine most of them will have something to do with life draining, at least one of the times he wins.

Agreed, Karn's nobility makes his chances suffer. He's not a glutton like Morlun, he just hunts to get approval from his family. Hence, he'll try to fight kind of honorably.