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Goku (Post Vegeta Fight) runs a gauntlet
Topic Started: Nov 22 2015, 07:08 PM (591 Views)
Notaka
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Goku is able to heal up earlier and departs to namek along with Gohan,Krillin and Bulma.
Once there, he has to fight against strong opponents never faced before.

He is only allowed to go Kaioken x2.
If he loses in a round, he is able to go Kaioken x3.
If he loses once again, he is able to go kaioken x4.(This is the last chance he is given).

Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon
Vegeta post First Zenkai.
Monster Zarbon
Vegeta post second zenkai.
Nail
Recoome
Burter
Jeice
Ginyu.

Bonus Round:Krillin gets killed by Freeza, and Goku becomes a Super Saiyan.
Is he able to defeat first form Freeza, and by extension Second Form Freeza ?

EDIT:Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Goku has no trouble with maintaining KKx3 and KKx4
Edited by Notaka, Nov 22 2015, 07:18 PM.
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I have Saiyan arc Goku (post zenkai) at around 12,000. Since there's no gravity chamber, he won't be getting stronger before landing on Namek. I doubt he could garner much from doing mental sparring with Krillin and Gohan, both of whom are still vastly inferior to himself. At best, his power level might improve by a few hundred or so while the latter two make notable gains, assuming this kind of training even has that kind of effect on one's overall strength.

Round 1: Takes down the first three with about the same effort that Vegeta needed to exert thanks to Kaioken x2. Since he can maintain Kaioken, Goku should be steering the course of the fights the whole way through, though he might decide to end it sooner since Kaioken isn't like having the same power in Base with no drain.

I'm guessing "post first Zenkai" is referring to Vegeta when he first landed - provided that's so, this fight will be completely even. Goku is certainly a capable fighter and he should be able to hang in there, but maintainable Kaioken or not, I suspect his reserves will be gradually depleting because Kaioken is still an active power; that's not to say he doesn't have a chance. However, the longer the fight continues, the more Vegeta's advantage over him continues to grow. I'd give it to the Saiyan Prince 6/10 times. If Goku wins, it's likely going to be through some combination of the Taiyoken and Spirit Bomb. No matter what, though, he's not making it past Monster Zarbon.

Round 2: Monster Zarbon is handled without too much trouble. Since Goku is heading into his rematch with Vegeta at a maintainable power level of 36,000, he has the advantage. Jeice stated that Vegeta's PL was roughly 30,000. That's about a 17% difference. The Saiyan Prince may not even be able to land hit, let alone take the entire fight.

KKx3 Goku is at a bad disadvantage against Nail - 14.3% to be exact. His best strategy is the Taiyoken and a surprise Kamehameha (Spirit Bomb would logically be unusable against someone like Nail). Normally I would give the edge in skill and experience to Goku, but Nail is certainly no slouch himself. And the longer this fight progresses, the more Goku's power deteriorates. He needs to get creative quickly for a chance at winning. I still give Nail the win 8/10 matches, and that's factoring in potential upsets due to Goku's vastly superior amount of feats and better variety of techniques.

Recoome is gullible and stupid. However, if you believe his power level to be greater than Nail's then Goku's odds look even bleaker than they did against the Namekian warrior. His only hope is the Spirit Bomb.

Round 3: Recoome is dispensed with after a moderately difficult fight. Burter's superior speed should allow him to keep up with KKx4 Goku (48,000), but the power and versatility discrepancies coupled with Goku's superior skill give him the win after a decent battle. The same applies to Jeice only without the speed to hold his ground more efficiently. Unfortunately, Ginyu is way out of league for this version of Goku to stand a chance with anything less than Kaioken x10.

Bonus Round: So this is a hypothetical Saiyan arc SSJ Goku? Well with the 12,000 estimate I personally have for him, Super Saiyan should put him at 600,000. 1st Form Frieza is going to be on the defencive throughout much of this fight because of the 11.7% discrepancy and rage Goku is feeling. The tyrant eventually falls after a relatively tough fight that sees Goku pressured somewhat. If Frieza is given the chance to transform, he easily wins.
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Base Goku: He gets stomped by the entire list, I have him at 12.000, so even Cui is far to much for Goku to handle.

KK2x Goku: He stops at Zarbon (normal form) cause he'll be at 24.000 which is the same power level as Vegeta Namek who handled Zarbon just fine.

KK3x Goku: Well since he's power level will be at 36.000 he gets stomped by Ginyu force members (baring Guldo) and beats Monster Zarbon and Vegeta post first Zenkai.

KK4x: Defeats every member of the Ginyu force (not Ginyu) and Nail but he stands no change against Vegeta post second Zenkai.
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Base Goku : 14.000
loses all fights, even Cui is too much for Him
Kaioken x2 : 28.000
he defeats Monster Zarbon, so he stops at Vegeta
Kaioken x3 : 42.000
he stops at Ginyu and Vegeta (Post 2nd Zenkai)
Kaioken x4 : same as Up
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SSJ Goku : 700.000
so he stomps First Form Freeza, but not his Second Form.
unless he got a Zenkai when fighting Freeza, because of being injured (maybe of Freeza torturing Him?) and Killing Krillin. if that happens, he defeats Second Form Freeza
Edited by OmegaSaiyan2, Nov 26 2015, 11:00 PM.
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Nov 26 2015, 10:27 AM
Base Goku: He gets stomped by the entire list, I have him at 12.000, so even Cui is far to much for Goku to handle.

KK2x Goku: He stops at Zarbon (normal form) cause he'll be at 24.000 which is the same power level as Vegeta Namek who handled Zarbon just fine.

KK3x Goku: Well since he's power level will be at 36.000 he gets stomped by Ginyu force members (baring Guldo) and beats Monster Zarbon and Vegeta post first Zenkai.

KK4x: Defeats every member of the Ginyu force (not Ginyu) and Nail but he stands no change against Vegeta post second Zenkai.
^The exact thing I was thinking.
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I have base goku at 12000. So with kaioken 2x he's equal to vegeta post first zenkai, if he wins this fight he stops at monster zarbon. With kaioken 3x he stops at Nail and with kaioken 4x he should beat everyone but ginyu
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I'm surprised Golu being at 12-14k is so unanimous. In case anyone is wondering, i have him getting the same boost, so my thought are exactly the same.
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I sort of just give him the same boost Vegeta got when he arrived on Namek at the time for sake of argument which would put him around that 11,000-12,000 mark.
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That's generally how I always figured it back in the day, so I've stuck with ~12,000 for years.
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