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Android 20 (Pre-Absorbtion) Vs Freeza (100%)
Topic Started: Nov 22 2015, 06:52 PM (499 Views)
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Who wins?
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He's stronger than Frieza. The goku he fought was stronger than the namek saga goku
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Is there something that states he's stronger than 100% Freeza ?

I have him beating 50% Freeza, but I doubt he could take on 100% Freeza.
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I personally think #20 would take Freeza's head off in a single punch.
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Yes I think both initial 19 and 20 are way too strong for Freeza. If you look at 19's reactions to Goku, it's clear that although Goku is much stronger, it doesn't seem to be by say more than 3x or anything like that. Goku on the other hand should be very, very strong.

Sick Goku >> Yardrat Goku >> Namek Goku

There's been quite an escalation of powers over the last 5 years, so 19 and 20 are definitely a good deal superior imo.
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Organic Freeza is just too weak. Mecha Freeza would be a more fair fight.
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There doesn't seem to be much of a difference between Freeza and his revitalized self.
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Mecha Frieza is sure that he could defeat SSJ Namek Goku.

He's at the worst 150 Million.

30 Million is a huge difference.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

20 does nothing. He pulls out an armchair, sits leisurely back and then Pre- No. 19 comes in and crushes Freeza's face like a grape between his butt cheeks.
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He is not sure he can beat Goku alone. What he is sure of, is that if he and his father team up, they will definitely win. Regarding his own power, he thinks he probably will win.

So considering that Organic Freeza was at least rivaling Super Saiyan Goku and Mecha Freeza thinks he will " probably " win, I'd say it's safe to say that his upgrade wasn't much.

Unless you think Freeza is expecting Goku to be stronger now.
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#19 could probably take this, let alone the more powerful Gero. As it was mentioned, #19 was getting up from serious attacks by SSJ Goku with little more than superficial marks on his body. He was initially at a disadvantage due to not being able to land a hit, but unless he has no pain receptors he's proven to be tough enough to hang in there with someone like SSJ Goku who was weakening at the time.
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Well it's stated that the reason he was able to keep coming back like that without pain is because he was an android. That doesn't change the fact that he was able to keep up somewhat in the battle by his reflexes and reactions.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Despite the fact that No. 19 was getting his face beaten in by a weakened SSJ Goku, torn apart by Vegeta and the fact that Piccolo was tearing off 20's arm. Piccolo still makes the remark that he isn't sure if they the cyborgs weren't as strong as Trunks suggested or if the fact that they as fighters had just improved so much that the threat of the cyborgs wasn't an issue anymore.

That pretty much alone puts the likes of No. 19 and No. 20 far above the likes of Freeza who is never once put into a position where he might be on that kind of threat level. No. 19 and No. 20 are at least given that chance and even if they aren't on the threat level that Goku and company were expecting, that still gives them a hell of a lot of leg room to work around then Freeza does.

You basically either have.

"Yeah, you guys might have been a threat, but we're too strong now."

Which even if the cyborgs aren't all the levels of No 17 and No. 18, everyone is definitely assured that they're expecting opponents who would rip people like Trunks and Yardrat Goku apart, the same people who have done the same thing to Freeza.

or it's basically, "Eh, Trunks may have been a bit off on the threat level..."

Which as mentioned already still leaves the cyborgs a huge gap fall under between expected cyborgs and Freeza.
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Yep that's a good way to put it. 19 and 20 could possibly be these indestructible monsters that Super Saiyans can't contend with. Freeza's power would never be mistaken for this level. 19/20 are definitely superior to Freeza by a good deal.
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