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Ssjg Raditz vs Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Super
Topic Started: Nov 20 2015, 12:43 AM (3,436 Views)
King Kakarot
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Nov 20 2015, 08:29 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 08:25 PM
If you don't allow statements as feats in DragonBall you can't powerscale anything
You can't power sc... mother f*** er all they do is fight each other! So what you're saying is actually BATTLES have no place in a power scale? Bugger off!
So people who fight in Dragon ball can't be powerscaled???????????????????


If SSJ Goku beats Krillin in 1 shot and Krillin beats me in 1 shot i'm going to stand a chance against Goku because.......................................

Goku doesn't need to fight me to know he can beat me in 1 hit

Your statement makes no sense
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You, you wont. Krillin just kicked your a***, and Goku beat his. They both just showed us that. A > B >;C, simple. I just saw you get one shotted, that's all I need. No one needs to talk.
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King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 08:32 PM
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Nov 20 2015, 08:29 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 08:25 PM
If you don't allow statements as feats in DragonBall you can't powerscale anything
You can't power sc... mother f*** er all they do is fight each other! So what you're saying is actually BATTLES have no place in a power scale? Bugger off!
So people who fight in Dragon ball can't be powerscaled???????????????????


If SSJ Goku beats Krillin in 1 shot and Krillin beats me in 1 shot i'm going to stand a chance against Goku because.......................................

Your statement makes no sense
Don't feign ignorance. Fights aren't statements. You said statements are the only way to power scale. Thus fights are useless with power scaling. That's your logic, and it's wrong.
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Nov 20 2015, 08:34 PM
You, you wont. Krillin just kicked your a***, and Goku beat his. They both just showed us that. A > B >;C, simple. I just saw you get one shotted, that's all I need. No one needs to talk.
That proves my point A doesn't need to fight C to say he can beat him since B already did

A doesn't need to fight C himself

@Tin Man i never said fights are the only way to powerscale

Don't put words in my mouth.Statements and fights are the only ways to powerscale
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 20 2015, 08:38 PM.
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Nov 20 2015, 08:36 PM
TheACE
Nov 20 2015, 08:34 PM
You, you wont. Krillin just kicked your a***, and Goku beat his. They both just showed us that. A > B >;C, simple. I just saw you get one shotted, that's all I need. No one needs to talk.
That proves my point A doesn't need to fight C to say he can beat him since B already did

A doesn't need to fight C himself
Which is amazing. That's a power scale without a statement. Statements are irrelevant!
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Nov 20 2015, 08:34 PM
You, you wont. Krillin just kicked your a***, and Goku beat his. They both just showed us that. A > B >;C, simple. I just saw you get one shotted, that's all I need. No one needs to talk.
That proves my point A doesn't need to fight C to say he can beat him since B already did

A doesn't need to fight C himself
No it's not your point KK, if it were this never would have happened in the first place. Your point was that statements are needed to power scale, and that fights are useless, which we are refuting.
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You, you wont. Krillin just kicked your a***, and Goku beat his. They both just showed us that. A > B >;C, simple. I just saw you get one shotted, that's all I need. No one needs to talk.
That proves my point A doesn't need to fight C to say he can beat him since B already did

A doesn't need to fight C himself
No it's not your point KK, if it were this never would have happened in the first place. Your point was that statements are needed to power scale, and that fights are useless, which we are refuting.
When did i say fights were useless :o_O:

Fights are a display of power which you need
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 20 2015, 08:40 PM.
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Nov 20 2015, 08:29 PM
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If you don't allow statements as feats in DragonBall you can't powerscale anything
You can't power sc... mother f*** er all they do is fight each other! So what you're saying is actually BATTLES have no place in a power scale? Bugger off!
Here you go Kakarot, verbatim. If you can't use Statements, you can't power scale! Is what you said!
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Nov 20 2015, 08:34 PM
You, you wont. Krillin just kicked your a***, and Goku beat his. They both just showed us that. A > B >;C, simple. I just saw you get one shotted, that's all I need. No one needs to talk.
That proves my point A doesn't need to fight C to say he can beat him since B already did

A doesn't need to fight C himself
No it's not your point KK, if it were this never would have happened in the first place. Your point was that statements are needed to power scale, and that fights are useless, which we are refuting.
When did i say fights were useless :o_O:

Fights are a display of power which you need
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If you don't allow statements as feats in DragonBall you can't powerscale anything

Right here. That is exactly what you said. Unless you're seriously telling me that fights are statements in which case you need to start putting down translations because that ain't English.
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No s*** if you don't have any statements how do you powerscale anything?

If Goku beats Krillin how do you know Goku can beat Freeza?

Your're going to need a statements to prove that argument
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Nov 20 2015, 08:44 PM
No s*** if you don't have any statements how do you powerscale anything?

If Goku beats Krillin how do you know Goku can beat Freeza?

Your're going to need a statements to prove that argument
You know Goku beats freeza because Goku physically beats freeza, instead of people just saying so. You do not need statements to powerscale, the idea that you do is silly and downright insane.
The way you're talking it's like feats don't count until someone says it happened.
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Nov 20 2015, 08:46 PM
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No s*** if you don't have any statements how do you powerscale anything?

If Goku beats Krillin how do you know Goku can beat Freeza?

Your're going to need a statements to prove that argument
You know Goku beats freeza because Goku physically beats freeza, instead of people just saying so. You do not need statements to powerscale, the idea that you do is silly and downright insane.
The way you're talking it's like feats don't count until someone says it happened.
Thank you Mr.Tin!

Seriously Kakarot, what are you arguing here?
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You know Goku beats freeza because Goku physically beats freeza, instead of people just saying so. You do not need statements to powerscale, the idea that you do is silly and downright insane.


Yes but without context it's useless how do we know that Freeza lost to Goku?

Because he got stronger how do we know Goku got stronger by statements :rofl:


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The way you're talking it's like feats don't count until someone says it happened.


Look at this hypocritical argument weren't you guys saying that an adult needs actual feats to prove he's stronger than a child and that statements can't be used in the adults case?

Don't try to pull that nonsense on me
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Nov 20 2015, 08:50 PM
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You know Goku beats freeza because Goku physically beats freeza, instead of people just saying so. You do not need statements to powerscale, the idea that you do is silly and downright insane.


Yes but without context it's useless how do we know that Freeza lost to Goku becuase he got stronger how do we know Goku bot stronger by statements :rofl:


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The way you're talking it's like feats don't count until someone says it happened.


Look at this hypocritical argument weren't you guys saying that an adult needs actual feats to prove he's stronger than a child and that statements can't be used in the adults case?

Don't try to pull that nonsense on me
Because he nearly lost to Vegeta (In a way he outright lost considering Vegeta could climb into his ship and Goku couldn't crawl after him or anything) before he fought Freeza, Vegeta outright lost to Freeza, who Goku beat. That's how you know. Not because someone said "Goku got stronger!"

Wait how does that work? What did I say that was hypocrisy? Even with you saying it I don't see what you're talking about. IRL you can look, at someone and tell how strong they are at a glance. In fiction little children can be stronger than Bruce Lee. I mean you do talk like statements are the be all end all of capability measuring, and that feats and fighting are irrelevant when measuring power. If you're talking about me saying feats aren't reliable, I brought up why, Namek Krillin vs DB Roshi, the former wins, but according to your system the latter stomps.
Like it or not, strength is determined be people fighting each other, not by people saying "he can destroy a rock!"
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You guys keep twisting my words to suit your own arguments now i'm the one who hates feats lol.

Last point i'm making is this without statements or displays of power you can't scale anything in fiction at all.
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 20 2015, 09:00 PM.
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