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Ssjg Raditz vs Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Super
Topic Started: Nov 20 2015, 12:43 AM (3,434 Views)
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Raditz gets the same boost to his power that Goku got from the ssjg ritual in Super. How powerful is he at that point?
Bonus round: Oolong gets the same boost, how far does he go in Dragon Ball
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I have him getting roughly on par with ASSJ Trunks (post-1st-HTC). He pwns Semi-Perfect Cell, ASSJ Vegeta overpowers him, and USSJ Trunks simply punches his face in.
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He God stomps everyone except for the Gods

SSJG took Goku from a star buster to someone who has Multi Galactic fire power( that's a astronomically absurd boost)

Raditz would still be in the Multi galactic range with the SSJG boost which is more than enough to deal with anyone who's not a God.

Even if Oolong got it he'd stomp everyone who's not a God the boost it gives is insane

Hell Kid Goku in his first appearence would beat anyone who's not a God
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 20 2015, 07:18 AM.
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The Last GT Fighter

Damn you guys are generous, I figured he'd make it to Frieza at best, but would probably still loose at 100%
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Honestly I do find the idea that ssjg Raditz>Vegetto completely ridiculous, especially Oolong being more powerful than Vegetto, or ssj4 Gogeta. Especially since Beerus has to put 10% against ssj2 Vegeta.
Personally I think he doesn't make it past Android saga, more likely Freeza can do it, though the random power ups that being in this form brings might fix him the win.
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Just remember it took Goku from star level to a level where he can nearly destroy the entire universe + otherworld

Just using basic math you'd realize that the boost is astronomical and giving it to anyone in DB would make them have at the very least Galactic firepower
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King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 05:42 PM
Just remember it took Goku from star level to a level where he can nearly destroy the entire universe + otherworld

Just using basic math you'd realize that the boost is astronomical and giving it to anyone in DB would make them have at the very least Galactic firepower
Meanwhile your feat system also leaves Demon King Piccolo as strong as Omega Shenron. Yeah I don't really buy it in terms of power level.
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Nov 20 2015, 05:57 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 05:42 PM
Just remember it took Goku from star level to a level where he can nearly destroy the entire universe + otherworld

Just using basic math you'd realize that the boost is astronomical and giving it to anyone in DB would make them have at the very least Galactic firepower
Meanwhile your feat system also leaves Demon King Piccolo as strong as Omega Shenron. Yeah I don't really buy it in terms of power level.
What are you talking about?Goku's line of blowing up a city as impressive was dub only :rofl:

The point is it took Goku to near universal level which isn't up for discussion

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King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 06:14 PM
Tin Man
Nov 20 2015, 05:57 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 05:42 PM
Just remember it took Goku from star level to a level where he can nearly destroy the entire universe + otherworld

Just using basic math you'd realize that the boost is astronomical and giving it to anyone in DB would make them have at the very least Galactic firepower
Meanwhile your feat system also leaves Demon King Piccolo as strong as Omega Shenron. Yeah I don't really buy it in terms of power level.
What are you talking about?Goku's line of blowing up a city as impressive was dub only :rofl:

The point is it took Goku to near universal level which isn't up for discussion

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And that helps how? Omega's feats aren't that great, he doesn't even destroy any planets, does first form Freeza>Omega Shenron make sense to you?
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Why do you repeat the same silly arguments time and time again? Powerscaling is a subsection of feats

If you don't have any feats you can't powerscale fighting is a feat.Omega has beaten people far stronger than Freeza through fights and statements
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Nov 20 2015, 06:36 PM
Why do you repeat the same silly arguments time and time again? Powerscaling is a subsection of feats

If you don't have any feats you can't powerscale fighting is a feat.Omega has beaten people far stronger than Freeza through fights and statements
Because they're right? They are, and with db you need to use them almost exclusively for power, and they take priority over busting feats because of the unreliability of busting feats. Busting is only really helpful when trying to gauge power in db v other matches.

If I'm to understand, Omega> Freeza, but Freeza can destroy planets, while Omega Shenron lacks thus specific capability. Going by feats alone.

Roshi busted a moon, Namek Krillin hasn't, last time they fought Krillin lost, and Roshi hasn't really fought since Piccolo, who was and still is stronger than Krillin. DB Roshi>Freeza arc Krillin by feats. Yeah that still sounds ridiculous.
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Statements and fights count as feats which you need for powerscaling.

If you don't have a statement or a display of power from a character you can't powerscale in the first place
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King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 06:52 PM
Statements and fights count as feats which you need for powerscaling.

If you don't have a statement or a display of power from a character you can't powerscale in the first place
Yes, thank you for explaining that. However, those displays generally need to be aimed at the fighters. Relying on feats rather than power level and scaling is useless. otherwise we get silly situations like DB Roshi being more powerful than Guru unlocked Krillin. Or Omega Shenron despite being many many times powerful than, cannot bust as much as First form Freeza.
Power scaling> the usual method of measuring feats for other IPs.
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Did you not read the part where statements count as feats?

Plenty of statements make Omega stronger than Freeza
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King Kakarot
Nov 20 2015, 07:08 PM
Did you not read the part where statements count as feats?

Plenty of statements make Omega stronger than Freeza
Well one, they do not count as feats, statements are stuff said by other people, feats actually happened. But enough about semantics, no one's really talked much about the power of db Roshi over Namek Krillin, and the scouters are so easily fooled that any statements they make about people when they're not fighting are useless. Aside from power levels and scaling you have no way to disprove me, everything else leans towards Roshi being stronger at that point of time.
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