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SSJ3 Vegetto (GT) Vs SSJ4 Gogeta (GT)
Topic Started: Nov 15 2015, 12:56 PM (1,015 Views)
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I think by myself that this would be a very interesting fight.

Who wins?
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I don't think a lot of people will agree, but I actually think Vegetto would win rather easily.

Putting together the GTPF and AHL anime comic, I have SS4 Gogeta less than 100x SS4 Goku, who I have comparable to Boo arc SS3 Vegetto.

I obviously think that a GT Vegetto would be well over a hundred times stronger than a Boo arc Vegetto.
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Gogeta would oneshot him easily, i have Vegetto above Gogeta, but only in same forms
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SSJ4 Gogeta stomps him.

Weakest person that could defeat him IMO is SSJ4 Goku when he first appeared.
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Impossible to have SSJ4 Goku (Baby arc)> SSJ3 Vegito (Shadow dragons) imo.

SSJ3 Goku (Shadow dragons)>> SSJ4 Goku (Baby Saga).

Explain me how SSJ3 Vegetto would lose then?
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Nov 15 2015, 05:26 PM
Impossible to have SSJ4 Goku (Baby arc)> SSJ3 Vegito (Shadow dragons) imo.

SSJ3 Goku (Shadow dragons)>> SSJ4 Goku (Baby Saga).

Explain me how SSJ3 Vegetto would lose then?
Well lets see

Super vegito buu arc = 100

Super beby vegeta = 110

Super beby vegeta 2 = 200

oozaru beby = 2000

ssj4 goku = 2200

ssj3 vegito buu arc = 100*4*4 = 1600


But that is also incorrect so that ssj3 goku shadow dragon would be stronger than ssj4 goku beby. No way, not even potential unlock

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Nov 15 2015, 05:26 PM
Impossible to have SSJ4 Goku (Baby arc)> SSJ3 Vegito (Shadow dragons) imo.

SSJ3 Goku (Shadow dragons)>> SSJ4 Goku (Baby Saga).

Explain me how SSJ3 Vegetto would lose then?
Ah, Sorry.I thought it was Buu Saga SSJ3 Vegetto.

Anyways, I still stand by my claim that Gogeta wins this.
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I have Gogeta winning but just barley, Personally I have SD SSJ4=Bebi SSJ4.
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Nov 18 2015, 01:52 AM
I have Gogeta winning but just barley, Personally I have SD SSJ4=Bebi SSJ4.
In fact, SD SSJ4>> Baby arc SSJ4.
Compare just the super 17 arc with the baby arc.

Baby arc:

Majuub> SSJ3 Goku.

Super 17:
SSJ Goku> Majuub.

Goku got over 1 arc a HUGE power boost. And in SD he has become even stronger then that.
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Nov 18 2015, 07:11 AM
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Nov 18 2015, 01:52 AM
I have Gogeta winning but just barley, Personally I have SD SSJ4=Bebi SSJ4.
In fact, SD SSJ4>> Baby arc SSJ4.
Compare just the super 17 arc with the baby arc.

Baby arc:

Majuub> SSJ3 Goku.

Super 17:
SSJ Goku> Majuub.

Goku got over 1 arc a HUGE power boost. And in SD he has become even stronger then that.
He did get stronger between SD and Super 17 but not that much, something like 2x sounds fine.

Anyway for this fight I think Vegito stomps this battle. It was stated in GT guidebooks (IIRC) that Gogeta is a few dozens of times stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, while I believe a hypothetical SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc could easily be far far stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, basically I think:

SSJ3 Vegito SD Arc > SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc ~> SSJ4 Gogeta SD Arc > SSJ Vegito SD Arc > SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta SD Arc.
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Nov 18 2015, 07:45 PM
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Nov 18 2015, 07:11 AM
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Nov 18 2015, 01:52 AM
I have Gogeta winning but just barley, Personally I have SD SSJ4=Bebi SSJ4.
In fact, SD SSJ4>> Baby arc SSJ4.
Compare just the super 17 arc with the baby arc.

Baby arc:

Majuub> SSJ3 Goku.

Super 17:
SSJ Goku> Majuub.

Goku got over 1 arc a HUGE power boost. And in SD he has become even stronger then that.
He did get stronger between SD and Super 17 but not that much, something like 2x sounds fine.

Anyway for this fight I think Vegito stomps this battle. It was stated in GT guidebooks (IIRC) that Gogeta is a few dozens of times stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, while I believe a hypothetical SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc could easily be far far stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, basically I think:

SSJ3 Vegito SD Arc > SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc ~> SSJ4 Gogeta SD Arc > SSJ Vegito SD Arc > SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta SD Arc.
I thought since Majuub did a better a job against Baby Vegeta then SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc) and then got destroyed by Super 17 while SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc) was able to hold own, that would make Goku in the Super 17 Arc at least 9x stronger then he was in the Baby Arc, since SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc)>Majuub>SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc) since SSJ3 is 8x SSJ, so wouldn't that make Goku at least 9x stronger then his Baby Arc counterpart? or do you guys think the SSJ Multipliers decreased in GT?
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Nov 18 2015, 11:25 PM
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Nov 18 2015, 07:45 PM
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Nov 18 2015, 07:11 AM
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Nov 18 2015, 01:52 AM
I have Gogeta winning but just barley, Personally I have SD SSJ4=Bebi SSJ4.
In fact, SD SSJ4>> Baby arc SSJ4.
Compare just the super 17 arc with the baby arc.

Baby arc:

Majuub> SSJ3 Goku.

Super 17:
SSJ Goku> Majuub.

Goku got over 1 arc a HUGE power boost. And in SD he has become even stronger then that.
He did get stronger between SD and Super 17 but not that much, something like 2x sounds fine.

Anyway for this fight I think Vegito stomps this battle. It was stated in GT guidebooks (IIRC) that Gogeta is a few dozens of times stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, while I believe a hypothetical SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc could easily be far far stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, basically I think:

SSJ3 Vegito SD Arc > SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc ~> SSJ4 Gogeta SD Arc > SSJ Vegito SD Arc > SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta SD Arc.
I thought since Majuub did a better a job against Baby Vegeta then SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc) and then got destroyed by Super 17 while SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc) was able to hold own, that would make Goku in the Super 17 Arc at least 9x stronger then he was in the Baby Arc, since SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc)>Majuub>SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc) since SSJ3 is 8x SSJ, so wouldn't that make Goku at least 9x stronger then his Baby Arc counterpart? or do you guys think the SSJ Multipliers decreased in GT?
I think the multiplier decreased. But imo he got at least something like 5x stronger. But he could also became something like 9x stronger like you said.
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Nov 18 2015, 11:25 PM
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Nov 18 2015, 07:11 AM
miguelnuva
Nov 18 2015, 01:52 AM
I have Gogeta winning but just barley, Personally I have SD SSJ4=Bebi SSJ4.
In fact, SD SSJ4>> Baby arc SSJ4.
Compare just the super 17 arc with the baby arc.

Baby arc:

Majuub> SSJ3 Goku.

Super 17:
SSJ Goku> Majuub.

Goku got over 1 arc a HUGE power boost. And in SD he has become even stronger then that.
He did get stronger between SD and Super 17 but not that much, something like 2x sounds fine.

Anyway for this fight I think Vegito stomps this battle. It was stated in GT guidebooks (IIRC) that Gogeta is a few dozens of times stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, while I believe a hypothetical SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc could easily be far far stronger than SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, basically I think:

SSJ3 Vegito SD Arc > SSJ2 Vegito SD Arc ~> SSJ4 Gogeta SD Arc > SSJ Vegito SD Arc > SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta SD Arc.
I thought since Majuub did a better a job against Baby Vegeta then SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc) and then got destroyed by Super 17 while SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc) was able to hold own, that would make Goku in the Super 17 Arc at least 9x stronger then he was in the Baby Arc, since SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc)>Majuub>SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc) since SSJ3 is 8x SSJ, so wouldn't that make Goku at least 9x stronger then his Baby Arc counterpart? or do you guys think the SSJ Multipliers decreased in GT?
I have Base Goku S17 Arc > Majuub, since I think that Base Vegeta S17 Arc = SBV2 cause he kept the Baby power boost, to give you an idea of what I believe:

SSJ Goku S17 Arc > SSJ2 Vegeta S17 Arc > Base Goku S17 Arc > SSJ Vegeta S17 Arc > Base Vegeta S17 Arc = SBV2 > Majuub ~> SBV1

And yes I believe GT multipliers decreased a lot.
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Ssj4 is a potential unlock, just because Goku got stronger doesn't mean ssj4 got stronger.

Ssj4 was so much stronger than everything else in Gt I don't see a need to increase its power till Goku surpasses his limits.
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