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| + Pointer | Nov 15 2015, 09:15 PM Post #106 |
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It is not the spam section Mr, Go back and spam something there @Tin Man If you willingly support the welcome the migrants with open arms movement, you certainly are way too naive. You easily dismissed all of my points, well everyone has opinions right. You support the migrant, Okay. I am not. And that is another opinion right? No matter what will u bring up, I wont change my mind about this. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 15 2015, 09:15 PM Post #107 |
 
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I'm fairly sure he was being sarcastic about the multicultural future. That's apparently a rather large complaint from Europeans, that the Muslim culture will somehow overpower theirs or something. Also that Europe will become less white, that too |
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| + Pelador | Nov 15 2015, 09:21 PM Post #108 |
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The idea that we will all start following Shariah law is fairly ludicrous. We have 2.7 million Muslims in the UK and as far as I can tell, we aren't anywhere close to being a Muslim country. We have 33.2 million Christians and 14.1 million people with no religion. Not to mention all the other religious denominations. So they would be severely outnumbered if the Islamophobics were correct. Which they most definitely are not.
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| Tinny | Nov 15 2015, 09:57 PM Post #109 |
 
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You seem to be saying that they're dangerous to the country and that Europe will turn into Syria or undergo something like that. Which is false and frankly insane. Not liking migrants okay, but don't paint it as anything but your opinion. The only thing that one can be justifiably worried about is the economic impact, but we've barely gone over any of that. And if I have to be detached from reality, I'll take being a naive fool over a cynical one. I swear, it's like saying our judicial system sucks because out of the ten people we don't find guilty, one actually did it, and that we should reverse it so the nine innocent are in prison, but so is the one guilty man. |
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| Darker | Nov 15 2015, 11:01 PM Post #110 |
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Yeah... As an european, I admit, I surround myself with idiots who say that kind of s*** A LOT. Edited by Darker, Nov 15 2015, 11:02 PM.
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| Zoom | Nov 15 2015, 11:15 PM Post #111 |
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Word leaders talk about Paris attacks. America needs to stop air strikes that causes causalities. It's 2015/2016, there's go to be another more efficient safer way way than missiles strikes. I'm not saying withdrawn from the war, just saying America can't give more reasons for terrorists to hate America and it's allies. Edited by Zoom, Nov 15 2015, 11:31 PM.
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| lazerbem | Nov 15 2015, 11:41 PM Post #112 |
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Neo-nazis tend to pop up quite a bit saying stuff like that Take a look around r/european if you want to see some more of it, it's blown up recently.
The other option is boots on the ground and the public is weary of that. Not to mention that the boots on the ground approach has historically not worked very well for the US against guerillas. |
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| + Steve | Nov 15 2015, 11:53 PM Post #113 |
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Put the boot down or give the victims the means to fight back is what I'd go for, pussyfooting around only prolongs the problem really. Instead if migrating would it not be better for immigrants to take their country back? If nobody else is going to do it effectively why not, take it back and build it up to greatness and then accept aid from other countries instead of letting them bomb the s*** out of it until it's just a pile of rubble. I see why these people would run away, who wants to be in a war after all but running away won't really change much just puts economic burden on struggling countries when people could fight back, win and then everyone can just support each other. Not that it would be an incredibly easy task but at least it would be doing something. If it's broke, open it up and fix it don't just hit it with a hammer and hope that it will start working. |
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| + Pelador | Nov 15 2015, 11:57 PM Post #114 |
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Bosnia is the only example I can think of where military intervention helped solve a problem. But that was against an actual army not an international terror group. I have an idea. The terrorists need funding to operate effectively right? Where do they get their money from? Shouldn't we be going after that aspect? Or perhaps we are and we just aren't hearing about it for security reasons? My guess is that it comes from wealthy types with an agenda of having some sort of control over certain regions. Drugs, slaves, weapons, you name it. Some rich a***** are trying to make a profit from this chaos going on. And they aren't all arabs either. It really wouldn't surprise me if there were people on this side of the world also looking to profit. Steve they tried and people still are but you can't expect old people, women and children to take up arms against Isis and others. I mean these groups took on the entire Iraqi army and were only stopped by allied bombing. Edited by Pelador, Nov 15 2015, 11:58 PM.
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| Darker | Nov 16 2015, 12:00 AM Post #115 |
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Oh man, you have no idea. I've heard things like: "We were better with "X" dictator before." Thank God most people have parodied and made fun of that phrase for decades here. Because I can't see people saying something like that anymore. Maybe elders, but even then it's not acceptable to say that when we had Franco wiping out most of Spain for several years. The dude bombed an entire city just because there were rebels there. Worse, he didn't just bomb it, he called Mussolini to send some planes of his to bomb the city for him. If you want my opinion, Rajoy is not going to give a damn, I'll tell you that much. Maybe a little speech titled "We're all France" but that's going to do absolutely nothing. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 16 2015, 12:20 AM Post #116 |
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I don't think that engaging a civil war would help much. Also, they're leaving in order to get better lives, their lives will only be much shorter if they try to go back.
Well they can pick up taxes now. IS is kind of a transition between a terrorist group and an actual state. The areas that IS conquers obviously have to pay tribute and be educated by IS standards. That's the whole point of IS, carving out a state with the laws they want. It's also worth noting that you can do a lot with a shoe string budget. Al Qaeda, for instance, was and is rather poor. Some of Bin Laden's last e-mails were actually discussing finances |
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| Darker | Nov 16 2015, 12:23 AM Post #117 |
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Considering his position back then... It's to be expected. 
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| + Steve | Nov 16 2015, 12:31 AM Post #118 |
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True but teach the able how to fight and let them fix the country in their own way, if us foreigners rarely help let them do it, if they want their country back they'll have to succeed. It will always be more meaningful if the people belong there take it back from the a***** who ruin it. Would also improve general opinions on the people, they'd no longer be considered scroungers if they took action.
It would if they succeeded. Don't the immigrants outnumber the dickbags by far? Give them training and they ought to win on numbers alone, especially good since they know the country better than any of our forces. If we're not good at guerrilla warfare then who better to send in than the people born and raised there? Wanting better lives is all well and good but action needs to be taken, bombing the s*** out of the place isn't working so something needs to change. Other countries clearly aren't willing to risk their own soldiers. What do we do? Just keep bombing until the country is a completely destroyed wasteland? Time consuming and not very productive. I see questions like "What would you do then?" and "Think of a better solution if you're so smart" Isn't something different as good a place to start as any? Current methods aren't working, time to change. |
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| Darker | Nov 16 2015, 12:35 AM Post #119 |
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Doesn't matter. Even if by some miracle they win, most will be dead with or without military training. |
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| + Pelador | Nov 16 2015, 12:36 AM Post #120 |
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I kind of agree that it's better to leave it for them to solve themselves since we probably caused this to happen in the first place with our s***ty foreign policies. Perhaps giving Assad a s*** ton of money and weapons could help? Then we boot his a*** out when it's sorted? |
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