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Attacks in Paris
Topic Started: Nov 13 2015, 10:00 PM (5,381 Views)
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inb4 the Americans are condemned for not getting involved
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You damn Americans always intervening, but now you don't want to. Shows just where your priorities as a nation are...

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Well, they kind of need to get their own affairs in order anyway. Can't go around telling other countries how to be when your own is falling apart at the seams.


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Nov 20 2015, 08:43 PM
They have a solution to beating Isis. First we need a UN mandate and Nato backing. Europe and Russia then need to combine forces including ground and air. When we've destroyed Isis we need to stick around to help rebuild Iraq and Syria. We also need to ensure similar groups don't pop up from the shadows. When every thing's settled down and rebuilt, we need to force Syria to hold democratic elections and Assad to step down as leader.

Pie in the sky of course but that's what needs to be done.
Why don't we also bring in China seeing how them and Russia are allies? When you think about it, considering how powerful we all are combined, taking out the ISIS would be pretty easy. Tbh ISIS hasn't been declared a problem for all nations. Yet.

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I'm sure USA's work in Africa is done. There's no more oil left to suck out from there. :rofl:
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I could be wrong but I don't think Russia and China are allies. Besides, just like America they have their own issues to take care of. And again, we don't need them anyway. We don't want too many cooks spoiling the broth.


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Nov 20 2015, 11:13 PM
You damn Americans always intervening, but now you don't want to. Shows just where your priorities as a nation are...

I don't speak for all Americans. There is about a 50/50 split right now nation wide on whether or not to invade or not. I personally think it's a bad idea because when it goes belly-up(and it will) it will just lead to another "lol amerikkka" round.
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Well, they kind of need to get their own affairs in order anyway. Can't go around telling other countries how to be when your own is falling apart at the seams.

Falling apart at the seams?
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I'm sure USA's work in Africa is done. There's no more oil left to suck out from there

Syria is not in Africa. In terms of what we do in Africa, a lot of it is aid. Why do you think so many African countries have such a high opinion of the US?
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Nov 21 2015, 12:44 AM
Falling apart at the seams?
Ever since Bush, education standards have dropped, healthcare is a mess, congress is a joke, social welfare is not good enough and the economy kind of sucks. I don't think it's top of the table in anything any more.


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Not being the best =/= Falling apart at the seams. You're right about those things, but we still have our big military. I know, I sound like the warmonger American stereotype, but that still is something to take into account. I feel super dirty bringing up the military
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Well because America arguably was the best. You can't deny it's been in decline since Clinton left office.


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Obviously, I'm not denying that at all. It's plain as day to see. That being said, just because we've declined doesn't mean we're suddenly a second world(just made that up)country. The military is still big(f*** I still feel like a FOX news representative saying that) and our GDP is up there among the top levels. Without per capita, it's at the 1/2 spot. With per capita, it's still 8.
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What would be the negative if America works together with Russia or better yet they join forces in their military fight against ISIS and other terrorists? Would the rest s*** their pants?
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The negative would be that it is viewed as them sticking their noses where it wasn't wanted or needed again. The difference with Europe is that our countries have actually been attacked and people have been driven from Syria to our borders. So we have far more of a right to intervene than the US does.


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So what if Russia and UK joins forces?
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The negative would be that it is viewed as them sticking their noses where it wasn't wanted or needed again. The difference with Europe is that our countries have actually been attacked and people have been driven from Syria to our borders. So we have far more of a right to intervene than the US does.
Yeah, pretty much. We can let another country handle it this time. Unfortunately, the public opinion is on a feather's edge as to whether we should go or not. If we go, I can't imagine it ending well. Guerillas are kryptonite to the American army
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What do you mean? America hasn't lost a battle in Vietnam against the Vietcong. They lost the public support and confidence because they lied to the American people. I don't remember anybody saying America lost any battles in Vietnam even when the Vietcongs launched a surprised attack.
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