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General Discussions - Movies & TV
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* Mitas	Jul 4 2017, 10:20 PM Post #61
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Yeah, I thought that it did a great job of making the life form interesting and scary, rather than just scary.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Darker	Jul 4 2017, 10:37 PM Post #62
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Steve, you're describing only two Alien movies. The first and Covenant, and I'm excluding Prometheus. They're aware of the Xenos in the rest, if anything they simply underestimate them, especially in Aliens. In Alien^3 they have no chance of defending himself against a very weak Xeno variant even. If you want more explanation on how their armors can withstand plasma blasts and stuff... Either go check out the comics where there's lots of reading or Ridley Scott's interviews and commentaries where he's a bit more descriptive about Xenomorphs. The movies leave them out ambiguous to make them more scary, the Xenos are like ants following orders from the colony. Calvin from Life seems more like the sort of infection John Carpenter's The Thing was (or the Blob even, both of them make the Alien creatures look like pussies). Also, from what I've read, the neomorphs are also pretty different, the same way the Deacon from Prometheus wasn't exactly a Xenomorph either.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


* Mitas	Jul 4 2017, 10:41 PM Post #63
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I bought all four Alien films a while back, but only got around to watching the first two. I've seen number three at some point, but that was quite a few years ago now. Still haven't seen 4. I enjoy them, but I wasn't exactly blown away. I'm a bit of an anti-hipster when it comes to movies anyway; older movies just look like s***. Even the ones, like Alien or Star Wars, that are actually pretty decent looking, are leagues behind what people can put out today. I can still enjoy them, but I just prefer the newer, more crisp looking versions.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Darker	Jul 4 2017, 10:55 PM Post #64
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	I'm the complete opposite. I appreciate the effort put into old animation and special effects, but nowadays, every CGI abomination looks the same to me, unless it's something revolutionary or unique, ala Beast Wars, Toy Story, or the T-1000 (or very good motion-capture stuff like Peter Jackson's King Kong and Gollum, both portrayed by Andy Serkis). When putting two pieces together, let's say, Fantasia 2000 with Moana, Fantasia 2000 blows it out of the water for me. Hand-drawn animation is far more respectable, but me being an artist might have something to do with it. Or maybe I'm just super biased.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


+ Steve	Jul 5 2017, 07:40 AM Post #65
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Darker Jul 4 2017, 10:37 PM Steve, you're describing only two Alien movies. The first and Covenant, and I'm excluding Prometheus. They're aware of the Xenos in the rest, if anything they simply underestimate them, especially in Aliens. In Alien^3 they have no chance of defending himself against a very weak Xeno variant even. If you want more explanation on how their armors can withstand plasma blasts and stuff... Either go check out the comics where there's lots of reading or Ridley Scott's interviews and commentaries where he's a bit more descriptive about Xenomorphs. Also, from what I've read, the neomorphs are also pretty different, the same way the Deacon from Prometheus wasn't exactly a Xenomorph either. That's my problem with the series(as stated in the Covenant topic) Alien and Aliens are pretty much horror and horror-action movie perfection and the rest either try to copy them or try to do something different and fail...let us not mention Resurrection. God no. Aliens shows us that guns can take them down, with difficulty. That they're not rampaging beasts but smart predators. Covenant was just like "f*** it, they're invincible" I don't think CGI will ever be as convincing or ever even slightly surpass practical effects. CGI Xeno's are nowhere near as freaky as the old costumes with their twitching lips and dripping saliva. A mix of both is definitely best but too much CGI always makes movie monsters look dumb and fake. It's like if you took a beautiful painting of a landscape and then stuck a 3D tree on it, stands out so bad even if the tree is well crafted on it's own.
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


Darker	Jul 5 2017, 12:59 PM Post #66
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Steve Jul 5 2017, 07:40 AM Covenant was just like "f*** it, they're invincible" Are we talking about the Xenos or the Neos, though? Because if it's the ladder, it should be expected that the Neomorph is made to be the bigger, badder Xeno.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


* Mitas	Jul 5 2017, 03:00 PM Post #67
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Steve Jul 5 2017, 07:40 AM I don't think CGI will ever be as convincing or ever even slightly surpass practical effects. CGI Xeno's are nowhere near as freaky as the old costumes with their twitching lips and dripping saliva. A mix of both is definitely best but too much CGI always makes movie monsters look dumb and fake. It's like if you took a beautiful painting of a landscape and then stuck a 3D tree on it, stands out so bad even if the tree is well crafted on it's own. To me though, that's just a badly put together movie. In the same way that in some old movies the designed monsters or sets stand out quite clearly as designed monsters or sets. Like you said, a mix of CGI & set design is probably best. I also think you're severely underestimating the potential of CGI. Think how far it's come in even the last 10-15 years. I wouldn't bet against technology advancing to a point that it's indistinguishable from non-CGI.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


+ Steve	Jul 5 2017, 09:21 PM Post #68
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Darker Jul 5 2017, 12:59 PM Steve Jul 5 2017, 07:40 AM Covenant was just like "f*** it, they're invincible" Are we talking about the Xenos or the Neos, though? Because if it's the ladder, it should be expected that the Neomorph is made to be the bigger, badder Xeno. Well the Neo's take a few hits but are they? I figured they should be since they're from Engineers but the Xeno's were like twice as big easy. When one was over a guy it looked ridiculously big. Maybe the Neo's never reached a full grown stage...and probably never will in a movie because they ditched the Prometheus stuff after all the whining... Quote: I also think you're severely underestimating the potential of CGI. Think how far it's come in even the last 10-15 years. I wouldn't bet against technology advancing to a point that it's indistinguishable from non-CGI. Honestly to my eyes it hasn't come all that far in terms of looking real, the most real looking stuff when it comes to people always edges in to uncanny valley territory. Terminator 2 still has some of the best looking and most seamless CGI even though it's over 20 years old at this point. Versus something like Avatar which looked amazing at the time but now not so much. CGI becomes very dated very fast in most cases. I think it'll be a very sad day when practical effects die off. No more greatness like this:
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


+ Steve	Jul 7 2017, 10:35 AM Post #69
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Oh Hollywood nooo... http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/the-grudge/50541/the-grudge-reboot-confirmed-director-found Imagine reboots and remakes could be exciting and surpass originals.
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


Darker	Jul 7 2017, 12:05 PM Post #70
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	As if americanizing japanese movies wasn't bad enough, now they're remaking those americanized remakes. Remakeception. What's next? A new movie with Zilla?
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


* Mitas	Jul 12 2017, 10:14 PM Post #71
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I've never really got the hate for remakes and reboots. The originals will always be there. I guess you could say that it's lazy. Or that it takes away from possible original material, but original films are still being released. I saw a film called War Dogs the other day. It was alright. It had some funny moments and the story itself was interesting as it was based on true events, but nothing special.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Darker	Jul 12 2017, 10:20 PM Post #72
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Remakes are usually unnecessary and tend to crap all over the originals' legacies. That's why they're so universally despised. I finally saw Saban's Power Rangers, surprisingly good, I didn't expect to like it as much as I did. Needed more explosions during group shots though.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


Zoom	Jul 21 2017, 09:12 AM Post #73
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Universal doesn't seem to be wanting to make a Hulk movie anytime soon. Spoiler: click to toggle So I wouldn't be surprised if Hulk gets killed in Avengers IW. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if this is misdirection from Marvel.



Darker	Jul 21 2017, 09:24 AM Post #74
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Marvel making mistakes? That's not something new at aaaallll... But anyway.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


+ Emmeth	Jul 21 2017, 10:52 AM Post #75
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	What's there to tell about Hulk outside the first movie? He's literally the least interesting character in Avengers aside from Hawkeye.
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