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Piccolo and supreme kai discussion
Topic Started: Oct 30 2015, 12:31 PM (265 Views)
FutureSaiyan
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Unless this is exclusive to the english dub, after Piccolo forfeits his fight against supreme kai he says he's "stronger than you can imagine" to Goku, yet he isn't even as strong as ss2 teen Gohan which they had all experienced up until that point. Did Piccolo just over estimate him? or is Akira confused about his own plot?

Also whilst on the subject, for those who believe Supreme Kai > Piccolo, then explain why Pui Pui and Yakon made kai basically wet himself when Piccolo could have taken both down with ease. Yes i believ base saiyans are no where near piccolo therefore if base Goku could handle his own, Piccolo is fine.
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But vegeta was pretty confident on winning the budokai in base even against the mighty piccolo



Buu saga has a lot of inconsistencies

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It's amazing how Base Vegeta can go from being obscurely weak to surpassing Piccolo via a power increase that's generally considered to be not that big. Cell Games Piccolo must have been closer to the regular Saiyans instead of the SSJs, quite arguably weaker than exhausted MSSJ Goku (unless you believe he was so exhausted that he was teetering on the edge towards reverting back to Base). Then again, I've noticed that those same proponents often believe that Piccolo never reached Semi-Perfect Cell level and is barely on-par with #16.

This has been gone over several times. My opinion on the matter remains the same. I think Kaioshin was being exceedingly cautious because not only did they have no knowledge on how much Babidi's magic had influenced his soldiers, his teammates were treating the situation like it was nothing. Why run in half-cocked and risk more energy being drained? We know Goku had underestimated Yakon. If it weren't for his opponent's own arrogance, he might have actually suffered some damage during the fight, provided he didn't go SSJ.
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for me supreme kai is low ssj tier by buu saga standards Piccolo is weaker than Vegeta in base at least thats what the manga tells

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Was Vegeta even aware by that point that Piccolo was participating? I'm not sure how informed he was at the time since his statement would have entailed Goku as well if he meant having an advantage in the overall competition.
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Thala na Gethu!

Why bother argue about a "part" of a saga of a "part" of series that ended aeons ago

Toriyama was havin fun. Some call troll, but I consider it was his way of enjoying his work

Build-up Kaioshin to be mean MF, then make him wet his pants against the likes of Pui Pui & Yakon

Which inevitably makes Dabura (Babidi's top dog) to look tough

His fight with Gohan would be hyped, of which in turn gives readers/viewers an idea of Buu's supposedly deadly powers

Why question supremacy of an already irrelevant character?
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