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| Was warmup Goku during the Cell Games really at 50%? | ||
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| Xfing | Oct 28 2015, 06:22 PM Post #1 | |
 
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Everyone seems to have been assuming that all this time, even I had until it occurred to me that Goku didn't necessarily remain at 50% for 9 days after powering up at Korin's. So is there anything at all that heavily suggests that Warmup Goku was at 50%, other than the fact that everyone's been assuming it and everyone else just rolled with it without thinking? I personally put warmup Goku at 33% of his full power as it opens some very cool possibilities, such as Vegeta, Trunks and Piccolo having received bigger gains during their second visit to the RoSaT all the while remaining inferior to Goku. Now, I know it might be because Vegeta was under the impression that Goku was giving it his all only during the warmup, but it's not entirely impossible that he forgot Goku's demonstration for the entire year of his training, or that he lost perspective having himself become stronger. Also, Goku wasn't shown to power up even once before the warmup commenced, so it's reasonable to assume it was his standby powerlevel, much the same as the one at which he emerged from the RoSaT. That gives us stuff like : Post-1 Grade 2 Vegeta: 40 Perfect Cell: 65 Grade 3 Trunks: 78 (speed 39) SSj Goku at standby: 64 Ssj Goku (50% demonstration): 96 Post-2 Perfect Cell (powered up): 195 FP SSj Goku: 192 FP SSj Gohan: 230 Cell Jr: 135 FP SSj Vegeta: 135 FP SSj Trunks: 128 Piccolo: 120 |
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| DEY DID DIS 2 ME | Oct 28 2015, 11:48 PM Post #2 | |
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You are keen to suspect that Son Goku was not at half power during his warm up. No one knew whether or not Son Goku's power at Karin's was at maximum, yet everyone knew that Son Goku and Cell were warming up. Good post, mate! Edit: iirc Edited by DEY DID DIS 2 ME, Oct 28 2015, 11:53 PM.
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| Billa | Oct 29 2015, 01:48 AM Post #3 | |
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Not 50%. Thats for sure At least 60~70% Goku himself admitted him being weaker to Cell. Add to that Cell Axe-Chopping Goku that sent him flying to the ring & AGAIN remarking Cell is even more powerful than he thought Plus, Goku being dead serious (unlike his comical warm-up fights as against Piccolo, Frieza or Kid Buu) just goes to show how heavily suppresed Cell was & Goku was f***** masking it |
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| DEY DID DIS 2 ME | Oct 29 2015, 02:18 AM Post #4 | |
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I suppose my only concern is that Vegeta questioned whether Son Goku was actually any stronger than he was before Son powered up at Karin's. Although, I may just not know what you mean by "at standby". |
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| + Kaboom | Oct 29 2015, 03:09 AM Post #5 | |
 
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No, there's no indication that Goku was at 50% or any other particular portion of his power other than that he was simply not using full power yet. Everyone at the Cell Games seemed to realize that neither Goku or Cell were really trying yet, so their performance in their warm-up doesn't matter much. | |
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| Xfing | Oct 31 2015, 10:29 PM Post #6 | |
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Well it does in that everyone seems to ascertain Goku's warmup powerlevel as 50% and I don't really know where that comes from. It was shown earlier that he walks around at less than 50% casually, as he needs to power up to that level as shown at Korin's tower. Less than 50% works better, as it implies better RoSaT gains for the gang, that's my primary reason for going with it.
That doesn't have anything to do with Goku's standby power. You will notice that Goku powered up first, and he went to the max. Cell then saw Goku's full power and knew how much to power up not to curbstomp him too fast and still to be comfortably controlling the fight. The reason why Cell seemed to be doing better in that fight was that he still had lots of latent power (even 2x as much or more according to the estimates of some), so he could draw from it to compensate for his injuries and stamina loss. That said, all this has no bearing on the warmup itself.
By standby I mean his standard, resting powerlevel - the one he stays at at all times. But yeah, that comment is worrying. It doesn't have to be though, not all comments need to be taken at face value, especially considering Vegeta's pride. What's more relevant here, I think, is Vegeta noticing clearly that warmup Goku is weaker than him in Super Saiyan post second visit to RoSaT. He of course hadn't expected Goku's full power, at which point he basically caved in, haha. Edited by Xfing, Oct 31 2015, 10:39 PM.
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| Super Saiyan God | Nov 7 2015, 05:53 PM Post #7 | |
 
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Yes, Goku's warm up power is actually well below his 50% power. A very important bit of information for those invested in power debates. | |
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