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Cyber Akuma vs Marvel Villains; 1v2
Topic Started: Oct 28 2015, 12:10 AM (401 Views)
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Blackheart, Dormammu, M.O.D.O.K, Dr. Doom, Magneto, and Apocalypse.

Can he win?


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1v1 battle.
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Blackheart, Dormammu, M.O.D.O.K, Dr. Doom, Magneto, and Apocalypse.

Can he win?


Posted Image"My creator wants you dead. It is done..." ~ Cyber Akuma
Apocalypse has mental powers and won a mental duel against Xiaviar. Does Akuma have a real defense against that?

Magneto controls metal and magnetism... Cyber Akuma is half cybernetics. Yeeah I don't see Akuma winning.

Doom wins because he's Doom. Took an IG beam to the face. His magic and tech will let him win rather easily.

Dormammu is the lord of the dark dimension. And fought Eternity without immediately dying. I think it's safe to say Akuma loses.

Blackheart is far too much in pretty much every respect for Akuma.

MODOK is the only one I can see Cyber Akuma having a chance against. Everyone else is way above his league or has mental powers or both.
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Apocalypse is the creator of Cyber Akuma, and lost against him "trying to unmake him".

Fair point on Magneto though, but Akuma can also teleport which could work to his advantage and rocket punch him in the face as soon as become tangible again.

Dr. Doom could fall to the Raging Demon I'm willing to bet.

How so? Blackheart won't have any technique that could work on him aside from possible soul manipulation, but I think C.Akuma's too fast for him in either case.

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Oct 28 2015, 12:41 AM
Apocalypse is the creator of Cyber Akuma, and lost against him "trying to unmake him".

Fair point on Magneto though, but Akuma can also teleport which could work to his advantage and rocket punch him in the face as soon as become tangible again.

Dr. Doom could fall to the Raging Demon I'm willing to bet.

How so? Blackheart won't have any technique that could work on him aside from possible soul manipulation, but I think C.Akuma's too fast for him in either case.

I really doubt the raging demon is gonna penetrate the armor when the infinity gauntlet did not. And Doom can teleport as well... and force him back with pebble boulders... and go back in time if that's not enough just to make things worse... and basically Doom has far too much at his disposal. Unless Doom gets handed the idiot ball he won't lose.

Akuma has the same chance of wolverine, Wolvy has gotten a few lucky hits in... buuuuut that doesn't mean he'll win in other versus, if you want proof I could make a Magneto vs Wolverine thread. I mean really, what's stopping Magneto from immediately ripping him apart? You'd need every factor in Akuma's favour or Magneto to come down with a case of the dumb.

MvC Apocalypse maybe, but Apocalypse defeated Xiaviar in a telepath duel, plus he has teleportation, has some reality warping capabilities, he's nearly decapitated Thor with a backhand... and again, mental powers, you haven't really said anything for that.

Blackheart fights with the Ghost Rider, Ghost rider is among one of the more powerful beings in the marvel universe. Mephisto's son and all... Basically he's a cosmic villain. Plus his telekinetic powers can rip planets apart, and of course, stealing AKuma's soul. I mean he's more or less among Mephisto's tier as well as Dormammu's, though both are superior. And is Akuma light speed? Because Blackheart is.

Edit:...oh it's 1v2.

Every team should stomp frankly, they'd be a match on their own for most.
...What did Akuma do to deserve this?
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Apocalypse is the creator of Cyber Akuma, and lost against him "trying to unmake him".

Fair point on Magneto though, but Akuma can also teleport which could work to his advantage and rocket punch him in the face as soon as become tangible again.

Dr. Doom could fall to the Raging Demon I'm willing to bet.

How so? Blackheart won't have any technique that could work on him aside from possible soul manipulation, but I think C.Akuma's too fast for him in either case.

I really doubt the raging demon is gonna penetrate the armor when the infinity gauntlet did not. And Doom can teleport as well... and force him back with pebble boulders... and go back in time if that's not enough just to make things worse... and basically Doom has far too much at his disposal. Unless Doom gets handed the idiot ball he won't lose.

Akuma has the same chance of wolverine, Wolvy has gotten a few lucky hits in... buuuuut that doesn't mean he'll win in other versus, if you want proof I could make a Magneto vs Wolverine thread. I mean really, what's stopping Magneto from immediately ripping him apart? You'd need every factor in Akuma's favour or Magneto to come down with a case of the dumb.

MvC Apocalypse maybe, but Apocalypse defeated Xiaviar in a telepath duel, plus he has teleportation, has some reality warping capabilities, he's nearly decapitated Thor with a backhand... and again, mental powers, you haven't really said anything for that.

Blackheart fights with the Ghost Rider, Ghost rider is among one of the more powerful beings in the marvel universe. Mephisto's son and all... Basically he's a cosmic villain. Plus his telekinetic powers can rip planets apart, and of course, stealing AKuma's soul. I mean he's more or less among Mephisto's tier as well as Dormammu's, though both are superior. And is Akuma light speed? Because Blackheart is.
I don't think the Raging Demon needs to penetrate armor it targets the soul specifically. How would Doom know to go back in time to win? He didn't do none of his (hero) adversaries like that to my knowledge until possibly after they foil his plans consecutively.

Wolverine doesn't have teleportation though, C.Akuma does, and he's naturally fast too. Nothing stopping him but I think it's who moves first imo.

Apocalypse is the story-wise lost to C.Akuma, it's not like how Ryu could beat Galactus in UMvC3. C.Akuma apparently broke free from his mental control so that will be somewhat limited. Reality warping may be an issue but he undoubtedly has more raw power then Apocalypse.

Blackheart fighting with Ghost Rider isn't a concern since a debate with those two (Akuma vs Ghost Rider) was hard to get a pinpoint winner (Zarathos was a different story). Though you're saying Blackheart is on his father and Dormmamu's level so I'm not sure on this fight, as well as with Dormmamu.

Edit: No that was a typo lol.
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Apocalypse is the creator of Cyber Akuma, and lost against him "trying to unmake him".

Fair point on Magneto though, but Akuma can also teleport which could work to his advantage and rocket punch him in the face as soon as become tangible again.

Dr. Doom could fall to the Raging Demon I'm willing to bet.

How so? Blackheart won't have any technique that could work on him aside from possible soul manipulation, but I think C.Akuma's too fast for him in either case.

I really doubt the raging demon is gonna penetrate the armor when the infinity gauntlet did not. And Doom can teleport as well... and force him back with pebble boulders... and go back in time if that's not enough just to make things worse... and basically Doom has far too much at his disposal. Unless Doom gets handed the idiot ball he won't lose.

Akuma has the same chance of wolverine, Wolvy has gotten a few lucky hits in... buuuuut that doesn't mean he'll win in other versus, if you want proof I could make a Magneto vs Wolverine thread. I mean really, what's stopping Magneto from immediately ripping him apart? You'd need every factor in Akuma's favour or Magneto to come down with a case of the dumb.

MvC Apocalypse maybe, but Apocalypse defeated Xiaviar in a telepath duel, plus he has teleportation, has some reality warping capabilities, he's nearly decapitated Thor with a backhand... and again, mental powers, you haven't really said anything for that.

Blackheart fights with the Ghost Rider, Ghost rider is among one of the more powerful beings in the marvel universe. Mephisto's son and all... Basically he's a cosmic villain. Plus his telekinetic powers can rip planets apart, and of course, stealing AKuma's soul. I mean he's more or less among Mephisto's tier as well as Dormammu's, though both are superior. And is Akuma light speed? Because Blackheart is.
I don't think the Raging Demon needs to penetrate armor it targets the soul specifically. How would Doom know to go back in time to win? He didn't do none of his (hero) adversaries like that to my knowledge until possibly after they foil his plans consecutively.

Wolverine doesn't have teleportation though, C.Akuma does, and he's naturally fast too. Nothing stopping him but I think it's who moves first imo.

Apocalypse is the story-wise lost to C.Akuma, it's not like how Ryu could beat Galactus in UMvC3. C.Akuma apparently broke free from his mental control so that will be somewhat limited. Reality warping may be an issue but he undoubtedly has more raw power then Apocalypse.

Blackheart fighting with Ghost Rider isn't a concern since a debate with those two (Akuma vs Ghost Rider) was hard to get a pinpoint winner (Zarathos was a different story). Though you're saying Blackheart is on his father and Dormmamu's level so I'm not sure on this fight, as well as with Dormmamu.
the time thing is just hammering everything Doom has. point is he has allot of tools to deal with Akuma, and Akuma doesn't have allot of answers. Doom has a hundred different answers, spellcraft and so on. And iirc raging demon has failed before hasn't it? If it has I can't imagine it working on the likes of Doom. Frankly this guy is hilariously OP to where it's a mystery Reed and Strange are able to compete in any fashion.

The mind is always faster, well not always, but Magneto at most ranges should win, Akuma has a chance if the fight starts with them mere feet from each other. Overall the fight is stacked against Akuma in general, he would win at best 3/10 times, but again, Magneto's own flight and magnetism ( some versions can make shields). Plus doesn't Akume not actually "teleport" it's more a teleport in function but you can clearly see him moving.

And again, this is MvC Apocalypse, I'm not sure how this works with the real one that can't be KO'd by a lawyer sneezing on him (different games I know). And I suppose yeah, game Apocalypse loses but frankly I want to see how because that's a bit of a leap for me. and again, I doubt Akuma has better mental defenses than Charles Xavier and Jean Grey at the same time. Honestly this is feeling like Spider-Man vs Firelord for me, it may have happened... but that doesn't mean it goes like that in actual versus debates and battles.

He loses to them both most of the time, but he's in the same general tier, yeah.

and the fact that this is 1v2 makes this... really a spite thread almost, most of these guys at worst compete with Cyber Akuma, letting them team up just makes this unwinnable for Akuma.
Edit: Oh. You should probably clarify in the opening post :p
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LOL Cyber Akuma managed to beat Apocalypse? Apocalypse is absolute GARBAGE compared to any of these guys(aside from M.O.D.O.K., of course). And I mean LITERAL GARBAGE. He doesn't have any other feats aside from being Akuma, and mental abilities are more than enough to finish him off.

Do you even realize the kind of beasts these guys are(especially Doom)? I know you love Akuma, and I do like him too, he's awesome, but he's not the kind of villain to be compared with these guys.
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Yeah, I'm kinda with Darker on this. I might give Cyber Akuma Blackheads and MODOK, but Magneto Slag stomps pretty hard and I can't imagine Akuma has enough in the tank to actually take out Doom.Dormammu, not so sure about, don't see him much.
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Hell, even M.O.D.O.K. can still give him a fight. If M.O.D.O.K.'s mental attacks don't works, his psionic attacks still shoot harder than tanks, considering how tanks shooting at Hulk don't move him, yet MODOK's psionic attacks can. Those psionic blasts also vaporized Abomination, and not just kill him, but reduce him to atoms dispersing through existence. He has endured plasma shots and several punches from an enraged Hulk, and even defeated a being that was supposed to be a better M.O.D.O.K. in every way(Ms M.O.D.O.K.). Plus, his forcefield is tough enough to survive nuclear warheads. When he confronted Thor, only a Mjolnir throw was able to penetrate it.

Apocalypse can still wipe his mind, same goes for Doom, same goes for Blackheart, same goes for Dormammu, and Hell, the amount of things Magneto can do to him are ABSURD. Even if he had no metal on him, Magneto can still rip out every single little bit of iron within Akuma, since he's human, and he has blood cells. And if he doesn't, Magneto can just pick up some mountain and crush Akuma.

You want someone Akuma can beat? Then I choose Ego the Living Planet lol.

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