Thiln

Oct 28 2015, 02:28 PM

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Oct 27 2015, 10:09 PM

Thiln

Oct 27 2015, 10:00 PM

Goku already felt that he was reaching a barrier after leaving the RoSaT. The fact that he could still achieve some sort of gain for his normal SSJ state over the 7 year time skip is quite notable. As to your question - I consider Goku to have gone up from being 10-15% weaker than his son to being 10-15% stronger. With the largest possible discrepancies for such estimates that's an increase of 30% altogether. Not bad for someone who needed to rely on further transformations to make any significant increases.

I suspect Vegeta may have had an inkling about Goku still being stronger during the tournament. He made no outward boasts of superiority from what I recall and was concerned enough about his strength being insufficient to accept help from Babidi to bring himself up to par with his rival. With Gohan, he originally wanted to fight him as well to see if the gap had closed. He probably felt much more confident going up against Gohan than he did with Goku since he was aware of Gohan's slacking off and was unlikely to have made much, if any progress.

How close in power Is Vegeta to Son Gohan (Cell Games)? Relate Son Gohan (Budokai 25) to each of the other aforementioned characters.

Vegeta from the 25th tournament? The gap has been closed by quite a bit, in my opinion. He and Gohan from the Cell Games should be rivaling each other. If there's any discrepancy then it's minor, maybe 5% if that. But then I don't consider the Majin charm's boost to be all that great for Vegeta since he was already pushing towards his peak with SSJ2, that is if he hadn't already reached it when you consider that Babidi stated how he was bringing Vegeta past his limits.

I think Gohan from the 25th tournament is about 15-25% weaker than what he originally was at the Cell Games. At best, he's still on-par with MSSJ Goku from the Cell Games, and at worst the power roles have been reversed. With Goku from the Buu arc, it's a 25-40% difference with his son from the same arc. What do I base that on? Nothing besides the cumulative discrepancy with Goku being stronger than CG Gohan and Buu arc Gohan being weaker than his younger self.

Gohan was clearly superior to his father at the Cell Games. However, I don't believe the gap was so big that Goku would be incapable of putting up a fight against him. A gap of 10% would give Gohan a clear advantage, whereas 15% is typically the bare minimum to ensure that a fight isn't one-sided, in my opinion. Something else to keep in mind is the fact that Goku was actively trying to fight Cell, thus putting himself in a more likely position to suffer injury. Gohan was only interested in avoiding his opponent's attacks. Had Goku adopted the same strategy, I suspect he would have some measure of success in dodging Cell, albeit not as much as Gohan.