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Morality in DragonBall?
Topic Started: Oct 18 2015, 02:16 AM (1,029 Views)
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I know DragonBall is obviously not in the real world and it isn't even always serious, but does anyone else think that murder could at-least be treated more seriously?

In the series Trunks slashes Freeza into pieces. Dodoria, and Freeza's people kill a lot of Namekians. Krillin almost killed Vegeta at the beginning. Vegeta killed Nappa.

Yet none of it really gets treated seriously other than "OMG look how easily he killed him" for the most part. In the real world, killing could be considered some of the worst of the worst, yet in DragonBall they just kill and move-on like nothing ever happened with the others. I know there are DragonBalls, but for most people on earth I don't think they even know of them.

There is one series I'm (re-)watching now that does treat it as a serious thing, and it's a shounen.

So yeah does it seem like they treat killing someone too lightly in the series, especially the villains? Without a second thought, like they are bad so they can kill them.
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The Dragonballs make death inconsequential. In TFS, Tien explains this in a way that is simultaneously funny and sound.

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Edited by SuperSaiyan1993, Oct 18 2015, 02:28 AM.
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I know about the DragonBalls, but for most people on earth they don't even know of them.

& it's not like killing someone, and then bringing them to life makes it any less bad of what they did. You still might go to jail for that.
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Well yeah. That's kind of the issue when you have a magical dragon God that can bring people back to life

There are some situations where it became a pretty big deal though. Either gohan goes ssj2 before the cell jrs kill everyone or they're screwed since they were all wished back already. Except trunks but still

And we got future trunks timeline which was pretty dark
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Oct 18 2015, 02:25 AM
Well yeah. That's kind of the issue when you have a magical dragon God that can bring people back to life

There are some situations where it became a pretty big deal though. Either gohan goes ssj2 before the cell jrs kill everyone or they're screwed since they were all wished back already. Except trunks but still

And we got future trunks timeline which was pretty dark
That's death in itself, though. I'm specifically talking killing.

For example might be bad example Goku kills Tao with a Grenade (in self-defence). Tao kind-of deserved it, but the moment he is gone they don't even think about him anymore & laugh as if someone didn't just die & got killed. Seems kind-of weird. Like no guilty conscience??? ok maybe not
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Oct 18 2015, 02:25 AM
I know about the DragonBalls, but for most people on earth they don't even know of them.

& it's not like killing someone, and then bringing them to life makes it any less bad of what they did. You still might go to jail for that.
No one can imprison the Z fighters.

Without the deterrence of jail and without the consequence of death's being permanent, the Z Fighters have little reason to care. They should care, but nothing convinces them why they should.
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It is very odd because of conflicting messages. In ROF, the Z-fighters deliberately keep all the soldiers alive. Yet none of them bats an eye at any killing. Goku preaches about mercy, but then he goes and kills Yakon.
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Oct 18 2015, 02:34 AM
It is very odd because of conflicting messages. In ROF, the Z-fighters deliberately keep all the soldiers alive. Yet none of them bats an eye at any killing. Goku preaches about mercy, but then he goes and kills Yakon.
He really didn't have to kill Yakon.
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Oct 18 2015, 02:30 AM
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Oct 18 2015, 02:25 AM
Well yeah. That's kind of the issue when you have a magical dragon God that can bring people back to life

There are some situations where it became a pretty big deal though. Either gohan goes ssj2 before the cell jrs kill everyone or they're screwed since they were all wished back already. Except trunks but still

And we got future trunks timeline which was pretty dark
That's death in itself, though. I'm specifically talking killing.

For example might be bad example Goku kills Tao with a Grenade (in self-defence). Tao kind-of deserved it, but the moment he is gone they don't even think about him anymore & laugh as if someone didn't just die & got killed. Seems kind-of weird. Like no guilty conscience??? ok maybe not
1. This is dragon ball you're talking about. It's not meant to be taken too seriously until 22nd budokai
2. Goku isn't really like that after his training with popo and kami. Not as much at least
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Thats cuz morality is too mainstream for DBZ

Those guys are literally living in a gladiator era with Aliens, Cyborgs & Magical Demons on a rampage who dont give a flying f*** about life or humanity

How d'ya expect to instill some sense into their brains?

Using talk-no-jutsu. Thats Nakamaboy's job. He'll replace Captain Vijaykanth when it comes to changing lethal, cold-blooded terrorists into an infant with mere speech. ROFL

Its either u get the job done or ur done for

DBZ isnt pretentious as say, FMAB

Scar was a MF who kills just about every Alchemists. Audience curse this guy

10 episodes later, Alchemists were shown to be mean MF's by wiping out every Ishvalan. Audience curse them as well

Then Scar somehow aids Ed & Al to fight off the "advanced beings" Audiences were having this mixes feel

Finally, Scar fights Wrath & Audience get hyped as f***

See the pattern here. Dbz doesnt travel on the same trajectory & is a simple, yet powerful tale of friendship & cool one up-manship
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Oct 18 2015, 02:38 AM
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Oct 18 2015, 02:30 AM
Ssj3vegito96
Oct 18 2015, 02:25 AM
Well yeah. That's kind of the issue when you have a magical dragon God that can bring people back to life

There are some situations where it became a pretty big deal though. Either gohan goes ssj2 before the cell jrs kill everyone or they're screwed since they were all wished back already. Except trunks but still

And we got future trunks timeline which was pretty dark
That's death in itself, though. I'm specifically talking killing.

For example might be bad example Goku kills Tao with a Grenade (in self-defence). Tao kind-of deserved it, but the moment he is gone they don't even think about him anymore & laugh as if someone didn't just die & got killed. Seems kind-of weird. Like no guilty conscience??? ok maybe not
1. This is dragon ball you're talking about. It's not meant to be taken too seriously until 22nd budokai
2. Goku isn't really like that after his training with popo and kami
I know it was still kind-of a comedy at that point, but still the point being Tao being killed was just that. It was a shounen at that point too, what does that tell you? That killing someone is all-right if they are a bad person.
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Yeah. Goku was a simple primitive minded little kid. Bad person? Kill them. And he changed for the better when he met kami and popo and grew up
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Oct 18 2015, 02:43 AM
Yeah. Goku was a simple primitive minded little. Bad person? Kill them. And he changed for the better
I think AT just didn't think of it.
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Toriyama didn't plan at least half the stuff he wrote. But so what? The fact that most if not all of it still worked...props to him

And look at the messages sponge bob gives lol. There are so many bad morals in that show. You gotta beat people up to be popular. You can neglect your pets. You can watch porn as long as no one catches you. Eat till you feel wasted in the morning. There's more too. But who cares it's hilarous(if you don't like spongebob f*** you)
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Oct 18 2015, 02:50 AM
You can watch porn as long as no one catches you.
when was that??? :o_O: :o_O: :o_O:

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