Gurren VS Lugnut

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Gurren VS Lugnut
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 14 2015, 02:08 PM (327 Views)
Darker	Oct 14 2015, 02:08 PM Post #1
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	VS 1st Round: Original size for both. 2nd Round: Lugnut gets scaled up to Gurren's size.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


lazerbem	Oct 14 2015, 07:27 PM Post #2
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Which era of Gurren? That affects this battle greatly. Early Gurren MIGHT lose, but once Kamina got its power under control, Lugnut is getting stomped, to say nothing of the wreckage Viral would wreak.
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Darker	Oct 14 2015, 08:12 PM Post #3
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Early Era. I didn't spot any difference anyway. I don't see how Kamina made Gurren work any different than before. Lugnut's Explosive Punch is still really dangerous for Gurren, especially because it doesn't affect Lugnut himself at all, and it becomes vastly more powerful each time it's used. I also need to post this because it's hilarious.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


lazerbem	Oct 14 2015, 08:18 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	That punch seems super inconsistent, but even so, Gurren could survive Enki's laser which obliterated mountains and being pierced by the Condemn Blaze(albeit with the pilot being heavily wounded). Considering those two moments, it seems likely that it can take at least one shot and then proceed to grapple. Kamina became way more efficient at piloting Gurren. At first, Viral's Enki stomped it. Then, when Viral had an upgraded mech, Gurren was the one doing the stomping.
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Darker	Oct 14 2015, 09:58 PM Post #5
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Wasn't Gurren Lagann the one surviving mountain-busting blows? Even if Gurren is part of it, I don't think it's quantifiable since there was an upgrade when Lagann and Gurren joined, right? I would also like to see Enki's laser feat. It's not hard to buy, though, I remember things like that happening all over the first episodes, but I never really counted them because none of the mechs were as extra massive as, say, Getter Robo, Mazinger Z or some of the EVAs. Didn't look that way to me either way. Also, even if Lugnut's plan of attack is always charging into the opponent and kick its a*** until he wins, I'd give him a massive edge in speed, since he can easily escape Earth and the Moon's gravitational fields, and it takes objects going at several times the speed of sound to do that. Durability aswell maybe, because it's shown that while falling down from orbit, neither Autobots nor Decepticons get wounded by the heat, only Bumblebee, but only because he's easily the weakest Transformer on Earth.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


lazerbem	Oct 14 2015, 10:13 PM Post #6
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	No, Gurren got an a* kicking from Enki before fusing. It certainly hurt it and it was losing, but it wasn't turning to scrap in a single hit. Here's the laser feat. Simon had to dig them away to escape, but the mechs survived it(semi-indirectly, but still. Also worth noting that Viral had expected the chassis to survive the explosion) The Condemn Blaze feat should be stronger than Enki's laser, since it's from a superior mech, but it did pierce through Gurren and mortally wounded the pilot(Kamina brought himself back to life). On the subject of speed, Hell no, Gurren wins that easily. It's as fast as Kamina, and Kamina can keep pace with Viral, who can do s* like evade high powered sniper bullets just by the flash of the gun firing. For that matter, Kamina is also faster than Yoko, who can match Adiane in speed(Adiane being capable of moving fast enough to casually deflect assault rifle fire with her tail). Lugnut may be faster in a straight line, but Gurren's reactions are far superior
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Darker	Oct 14 2015, 11:37 PM Post #7
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	He doesn't actually just go on a straight line, he can hover in mid-air and still be faster than Starscream who is not only a futuristic jet but also one of the fastest Decepticon, probably second, only to Megatron. He was the one who had the most showings of going into outer space and re-entrying Earth's atmosphere without injury at high speeds. Fair point about reaction speed, not sure Lugnut has any actual feats on that department. He dodged a wrecking ball, but that scene was entirely comedic. It can't be compared to a sniper rifle. And about that feat, I don't really think we can count it. Gurren's durability is pretty crappy when it's not connected to Lagann. How tall is Gurren anyway? Like a few dozen feet, right? PD: Basically the whole reason I made this thread, because of Kamina's epic line... Which totally reminded me of Lugnut's best line.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


lazerbem	Oct 14 2015, 11:46 PM Post #8
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Hovering still won't help him when Gurren's sun glasses are tracking attacks. Gurren wasn't connected to Lagann during that feat though. They were lying next to each other, but they weren't connected or anything. Lagann just dug a hole in the ground and they escaped the brunt of the explosion(though it still certainly hit them and Viral expected to see their remains anyway). Gurren got a lot stronger over time too, against Enkidu(basically Enki but better), it was easily winning. Gurren's height shifts constantly, as animated characters do. Lugnut can put up a fight, but Gurren is just too durable and too fast. Not to mention ferocious, Kamina is apparently strong enough to destroy Gunmen even without a Gunmen, According to Word of God, Kamina would have beaten that Gunmen in the beginning with just his sword if Yoko hadn't interfered
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Darker	Oct 15 2015, 12:18 AM Post #9
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	So Lugnut has some edge in speed (not combat speed particularly), maybe strength(either that or they're somewhat equal), probably firepower, given that he still can shoot lasers and missiles and stuff, equal durability (since he can survive small nuclear explosions that can level a forest and a shot from Omega Supreme who has to be uber powerful by logic considering he's the Autobots' greatest and most powerful weapon) and combat experience (since he's proven worthy of being Megatron's most loyal commander). Anything else (which is most things), Gurren is superior. And about Gurren's sun glasses being able to track down attacks, Lugnut has something very similar which proves how good his tracking skills are(not really).
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


lazerbem	Oct 15 2015, 12:42 AM Post #10
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	That's not what I meant by tracking. I mean that they are like a homing missile and can spin in erratic patterns to confuse the enemy before hitting them or binding them. Lugnut showed that he can see silhouettes through smoke, but that he can't identify figures in said smoke. That's useful if there's a smoke screen, but Gurren doesn't play that way.
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