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Accelerator Vs Narutoverse
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eliah1102	Oct 11 2015, 03:45 PM Post #1
Posts: 3 Group: New Member Member #12,701 Joined: October 11, 2015 Gender Male Country India Favourite Anime Clannad and Clannad After Story, Fate/Zero, Nagi no Asukara, Toradora! And Nana.	Accelerator from Toaru Majutsu no Index takes on the whole Narutoverse excluding Edo's. .Win by Death or Incap. .Accelerator is in character and the Narutoverse are bloodlusted. *.They fight on Indestructable Earth. Attached to this post: tumblr_mnud40798l1r5cqwko1_500.png (9.54 KB)
	I've already decided. Getting good grades and listening to teachers can take me somewhere high and far away, but what if that's not where I want to go? Right here, by your side, is the only place I want to be. ~Tomoyo Okazaki


EMIYA	Oct 11 2015, 04:05 PM Post #2
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Physical attacks won't do jack unless they're able to defy the usual laws of vectors and even that may not be enough considering Accelerator even managed to turn Kakine Teitoku's own dark matter against him which doesn't even obey the natural laws of vectors. If they knew about the ability to pull their punches at the right time, anyone good with taijutsu would wreck his face pretty much. But hey the only person who knew that was Kihara Amata and that's only because he's the one who basically taught Accelerator everything and knows all there is to know about him. So in other words, without an ability to bypass his reflection, people in the Narutoverse can't even touch Accelerator physically. Not a matter of strength or power, just a matter of physics be damned on the #1 Esper of Academy City. If they don't have something that can bypass that reflection, they'll need to rely on indirect measures. It's hard to say how much Genjutsu's would actually work on here. While never stated, there's a pretty good chance even the #5 Level 5 Shokuhou Misaki's Mental Out ability would have no effect on him so trying to mess with his mind may not even work. However as we know Accelerator's mental state is rather erratic and as proven in NT 6 by Kakine Teitoku, putting his emotional state into flux can cause his reflection to falter. If the Narutoverse can somehow mess with his emotional state they may be able to find a way to surpass that reflection of his. Of course this is without getting into the whole Black Wings and Angel Mode either. In a straight up fight Accelerator probably doesn't have the skill to do much against the higher tier characters though he definitely has the power to do so but at the same time the Narutoverse are facing someone whom they can't essentially even hurt.



Truth	Oct 12 2015, 12:19 AM Post #3
Posts: 2 Group: New Member Member #12,423 Joined: June 22, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Bing Favourite Manga GetBackers	Dark Matter Oct 11 2015, 04:05 PM Physical attacks won't do jack unless they're able to defy the usual laws of vectors and even that may not be enough considering Accelerator even managed to turn Kakine Teitoku's own dark matter against him which doesn't even obey the natural laws of vectors. If they knew about the ability to pull their punches at the right time, anyone good with taijutsu would wreck his face pretty much. But hey the only person who knew that was Kihara Amata and that's only because he's the one who basically taught Accelerator everything and knows all there is to know about him. So in other words, without an ability to bypass his reflection, people in the Narutoverse can't even touch Accelerator physically. Not a matter of strength or power, just a matter of physics be damned on the #1 Esper of Academy City. If they don't have something that can bypass that reflection, they'll need to rely on indirect measures. It's hard to say how much Genjutsu's would actually work on here. While never stated, there's a pretty good chance even the #5 Level 5 Shokuhou Misaki's Mental Out ability would have no effect on him so trying to mess with his mind may not even work. However as we know Accelerator's mental state is rather erratic and as proven in NT 6 by Kakine Teitoku, putting his emotional state into flux can cause his reflection to falter. If the Narutoverse can somehow mess with his emotional state they may be able to find a way to surpass that reflection of his. Of course this is without getting into the whole Black Wings and Angel Mode either. In a straight up fight Accelerator probably doesn't have the skill to do much against the higher tier characters though he definitely has the power to do so but at the same time the Narutoverse are facing someone whom they can't essentially even hurt. I agree with most of your analysis. Kakashi and other characters are good at analyzing people's powers. They have fought someone in past who they couldn't touch and had a passive ability like Accelerator. Though I wonder can Kaguya just teleport him into a parallel world and leave him there to die.



Mihawk	Oct 12 2015, 12:29 AM Post #4
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	There are a bunch of people who in theory can't be touched in Naruto but eventually had their weaknesses exposed like Pain and Tobi. Based on Dark Matter's description, a combo battle using a smarter character like Kakashi combined with a hax character like Tobi or Minato should be enough to get past the reflection. Itachi in theory has the same ability with Susanoo and Yata Mirror, and he's far from unbeatable.



EMIYA	Oct 12 2015, 01:31 AM Post #5
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	I'd also like to point out that the whole "emotional state of Accelerator" happened in earlier volumes and after Volume 6 of NT, Accelerator has far more control over his emotional state but regardless. I'd also like to point out that Accelerator's mental computation can essentially re-write computer data and needs over 10,000 minds to help utilize his powers. To be pretty blunt, he's probably smarter than anyone in Naruto but...considering my lack of knowledge on that series I digress. But you have a guy who could literally survive having a nuclear bomb dropped on him, has in the Light Novels has build up enough energy to slow the planetary rotation about five minutes. Is unable to be hurt physically by literally any means necessary unless those means defy the laws of physics. This isn't like Itachi chucks out a combination Tsukyiomi, Susanoo wihle Madra and Pain drop 20 meteors down or some s***. Cause it wouldn't work. That's the craziness of Accelerator's reflection.



+ Steve	Oct 12 2015, 02:06 AM Post #6
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	So Gai could kill him then since he bent space? Also Genjutsu, no real vectors involved there. Itachi should be able to wreck him considering he can place people under Tsukiyomi just if they passively look at his hand movements. What's Accelerators reaction speed like? Couldn't be bothered finishing the series but from what I seen he had to be consciously aware of vectors coming at him on some part, so he likely couldn't react to anything light speed. That said didn't get very far, not far enough to see this angel thing so maybe his power buffs up a lot. Gudodama defy physics quite a lot too can't see how his power would negate them considering they negate all but Nature Energy and raw physical power. Kamui is a possibility also, the long range kind. Opening a portal inside someones brain defies known physics right Now this is a tricky one, Shadow Possession? Can the absence of light be considered a vector? There's also Mind Transfer that could be a bother. Some potential low tier winners right there. Deidara's micro bombs also would Accelerator be able to even detect those? What about Kisame's Shark Missile and the Wood Dragon techniques also if they can absorb energy which surely Accelerators power functions on on some level they might be able to absorb it and power through.
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


EMIYA	Oct 12 2015, 03:03 AM Post #7
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Accelerator's reflection is always on. It's how he can be sniped without him knowing a thing and the bullet still get reflected back at the original target. It's not like Accelerator has to be focused on one thing and then someone can suddenly blindside him. He's literally stepped landmines without realizing it and survive the explosion right underneath his foot because of his reflection. It gets to the point where almost everything is be reflected off of him, sunlight, etc. Gai bending space won't help here. He'll just end up breaking his arm off if he even try to physically touch Accelerator. Accelerator's reaction speed is s***, get passed the reflection and any normal person could beat his face in. But since that reflection is constantly on, its not a matter of how fast or powerful your attacks are, its the properties that make up it. Does a Gudodoma disobey the laws of vectors or is something that doesn't naturally exist in the universe? For example Kakine's dark matter can initially get through the reflection because its something that doesn't exist in the world. It's completely new matter that has its own laws and properties and Accelerator needed to first know those laws before he could reflect it. If the Gudodama is something that has completely different laws from the rest of the matter, then sure but if it still follows the same laws as the rest of the matter in the series, then its getting sent right back. As for Kamui. If it can create a portal instantly in the head without actually having to hit Accelerator directly. Like just insta portal pop in head or something then sure. Again its all a matter of whether or not it needs to physically hit the guy. There are people in the To Aru Verse such as Fiamma of the Rights who literally have attacks that have no middle point. There's just the starting point and the ending point and the attack hits regardless. Mental Transfer won't do anything, that I can say right. The #5 Level 5, the greatest mental Esper in the series who can manipulate the minds and memories of multiple people at the same time can't do anything to the #3 Esper who in turn can't do jack against the #1 Esper. Trying to mentally control Accelerator whom on his own has literal supercomputer computation skills just can't suffer under that. Micobombs are the same as what I mentioned before. Even Accelerator doesn't know about them, his reflection will automatically reflect them away. Guys kind of haxed. As for the last ones, couldn't say for sure because it's not really remarked how Accelerator's reflection works in terms of energy.



Mihawk	Oct 12 2015, 03:10 AM Post #8
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Dark Matter Oct 12 2015, 01:31 AM This isn't like Itachi chucks out a combination Tsukyiomi, Susanoo wihle Madra and Pain drop 20 meteors down or some s***. Itachi, Madara, and Sasuke all can use mutiple Mangyeko powers at once. Itachi is nigh invulnerable with Yata mirror. Unless Accelerator is really good at stalling, Itachi should win.



+ Steve	Oct 12 2015, 03:23 AM Post #9
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	If his reflection is on constantly how come the main guy in the series with Index could get right up and punch him? His arm negates powers if I remember right but only his arm not his whole body. So if anyone can just sneak through the reflection and use some hax that ought to work. I would say Gudodama defy the laws of physics, they destroy everything they touch, even souls nothing in the series works the same way aside from the Particle Style they contain every type of chakra including ying and yang. They can also flow like a liquid and form virtually any shape despite immense density so they don't make an awful lot of sense. There's also Madara's Limbo technique. As for the mental part, you can't really say for certain it wouldn't work considering Mind Transfer from Ino was still able to affect Obito and Madara(I forget which) who were most certainly many many mannnny leagues above her, not to mention there's the whole Yamanaka clan to consider. Pretty sure she wasn't considered the best so assuming her dad is and is alive the whole clan ought to be able to do something. Just four sensory ninja were able to co-ordinate a whole battle with thousands of shinobi many miles away, organizing all their talents and powers where they'd best be suited. Their minds are nothing to be snuffed at for sure, especially not all of them working as one.
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


EMIYA	Oct 12 2015, 03:51 AM Post #10
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Kamijou Touma's Imagine Breaker, the ability in his right hand specifically negates any and all special ability. That's why he's able to get passed Accelerator's reflection. It's the power of imagine Breaker. Touma can't do anything to Accelerator accept using his right hand which contains that ability.



eliah1102	Oct 12 2015, 04:30 PM Post #11
Posts: 3 Group: New Member Member #12,701 Joined: October 11, 2015 Gender Male Country India Favourite Anime Clannad and Clannad After Story, Fate/Zero, Nagi no Asukara, Toradora! And Nana.	Well Accelerator has even reflected Teleportation so nope Kamui or the others wont work. Also TSB/Gudodama's are not like Dark Matter since TSB is not from outside the verse and also Accel has reflected Magic(at the first try) which defies the physical laws. Genjutsu wont work since Accel has resisted TP when Aiwass used it on GROUP. The pulling back a punch weakness cannot be exposed since they need to know how Accels powers work first and nobody in Narutoverse is well versed in Physics to know anything about Vectors.
	I've already decided. Getting good grades and listening to teachers can take me somewhere high and far away, but what if that's not where I want to go? Right here, by your side, is the only place I want to be. ~Tomoyo Okazaki


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