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Oct 13 2015, 12:32 AM Post #16 |
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Naruto is one of the worst Shonen in existence. No way is it mature... In fact, it's childish. Naruto has a god complex and forgives anyone who converts to his cult even if they start a world war over a dead 13 year old who friendzoned him and killed his parents. Just because Naruto tries to have a plot doesn't mean its better than any generic Shonen. It falls flat on its face by doing so, as it's full of plotholes, asspulls, and stupidly written characters. I'm not even saying this to be edgy. Go on any serious Anime forum, ask what they think of Naruto... They'll tell you the same thing I'm saying. Naruto is among the most heavily criticized Manga out there. Edited by Big Green The Yoshi, Oct 13 2015, 12:33 AM.
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Oct 13 2015, 12:40 AM Post #17 |
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Shall we simply say that "Mature" isn't light-hearted? It also seems that "Mature" can't be geared toward a story where a primary subject or aspect is school, hence why Death Note isn't considered mature, even though it is dark. There's plenty of light-hearted things in Naruto, therefore not making it a mature series, even though it can be considered as having mature subjects. For example, the episode where Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura fantasize about what's behind Kakashi's mask, and try to catch him without it is what makes it not a mature series. That's clearly geared toward the younger audiences. One Piece has dark themes, but it's geared toward young boys, hence being a "Shonen" series; therefore it's not a "mature" series. For the record, I am not a fan of Naruto. The only thing I think is good in it is the artstyle because it's likable and it stands out. And overall, I'm not a fan of One Piece. I simply hate the artstyle, and always confuse some of the female characters with the ones from FairyTale; because they look so similar. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Oct 13 2015, 12:46 AM.
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| FutureProtagonist | Oct 13 2015, 12:48 AM Post #18 |
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One Piece came first. Fairy Tale is a cheap One Piece ripoff. I mean, really. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Oct 13 2015, 12:50 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Oct 13 2015, 01:03 AM Post #19 |
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One of the worst Shonen in existence? The hate is real. I could easily criticise One Piece for its art-style and how much of a slow-burn it is at the beginning, but that's not what this topic is about. There's an Anime section and a Manga section if you want to discuss certain series in detail, this is a topic about what makes an anime mature. |
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| + QueenTD | Oct 13 2015, 01:28 AM Post #20 |
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Funny enough. I prefer Fairy Tale over One Piece.
Don't every anime forum complain? Like I'm not seeing where you're going. I can find a "serious" forum that hates One Piece or even Devil is a Part Timer. Edited by QueenTD, Oct 13 2015, 01:33 AM.
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| + Steve | Oct 13 2015, 01:42 AM Post #21 |
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Yeah we could all do exactly the same thing for One Piece and find many people that hate it. Or does it's popularity mean it's good? But for Naruto with it's popularity it still sucks? Naruto is the third best selling manga in the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga Because it's awful? Anyway I don't think there are many anime I would consider "mature" more than I would consider them "adult" Like High School of the Dead, pretty gory s*** with tons of big titted babes in revealing clothing(pretty sure there's some topless nudity can't remember) Wouldn't really call that mature, despite the concept still needs to wedge in fanservice. I mean at one point a guy literally uses a girls breasts as a cushion so he can deal with the recoil of a sniper better...wot. So that's definitely adult in that it features content approved only for adults and 12 year olds with access to the internet. FMA I'd consider mature due to it's more serious tone, it has it's comedic moments for sure but overall it's a fairly serious story. Not that I'd say it qualifies as one of the most mature series ever or anything, just above average in that regard. |
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| SSJ | Oct 15 2015, 02:41 AM Post #22 |
 
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Oct 15 2015, 03:18 AM Post #23 |
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This forum is full of philistines... I regret nothing. |
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| + Steve | Oct 16 2015, 01:26 PM Post #24 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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Not agreeing with an extremely biased point of view = philistine Or at least not agreeing that One Piece is the ultimate art form and in all ways perfect while everything is trash apparently. Anyway can someone recommend a mature anime? As much as I like shounens it'd be nice to watch something a bit more serious that doesn't just randomly slap comedy or fanservice on out of nowhere. Well would still prefer something with shounen elements to it than just a really standard story like a romance, those all feel the same to me(and are extremely depressing like all the time) As for another...I would say Sunday Without God was pretty good, a little short since it was basically four 3 episode arcs but it didn't wedge in a ton of pointless crap each was it's own little story, mostly serious and fairly sad but was definitely one of my favourite series of the year it came out...2012 comes to mind. Got kind of overshadowed by the bandwagon type anime, AoT or SAO at the time. |
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| Tinny | Oct 16 2015, 01:35 PM Post #25 |
 
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Well personally I'd recommend Fate Zero, its dark but it's an amazing anime if you ask me. It's on Netflix and Crunchy Roll, probably Hulu as well. |
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Oct 16 2015, 06:06 PM Post #26 |
 
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Just because an Anime is Seinen or is Dark/Psychological/as heavy themes or shows lot of blood or shows women's upper halves naked doesn't mean it belongs to the category of 'Mature' .This is usually the common misconception people have. But, it is understandably because there aren't many mature anime being made since the time anime became popular outside of Japan. Now I am not saying that 'Mature anime' can not contain them, they can contain those aspects like being dark or psychological and etc ,but, 'Mature Anime' is a Seinin anime with 'something more'. That 'something more' is what separates it from Seinen/Dark/Psychological/Thriller etc anime. If you really want to see some mature anime then you might want to look for anime's made in the 80's and early 90's. But beware most of them probably didn't make it out of Japan because back then anime wasn't really huge outside of Japan. But, I can suggest you some to help you understand what really is 'Mature Anime'. Some old ones are, ->Genocyber ->Ninja Ressurection ->Blood Reign: Curse of the Yoma ->Twilight of the dark master Old but known/popular ones ->Ninja Scroll ->Wicked City Modern ones ->The King of Pigs Above are some anime('s) which would help you understand what a Mature Anime is really. Edited by Wong Lee, Oct 16 2015, 06:07 PM.
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| Thiln | Oct 17 2015, 04:14 AM Post #27 |
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What about Attack on Titan? Artistically the manga has sort of an 1800s Gothic vibe to it. Very shadowed and expressively dismal at times. The subject matter focuses on a desperate and, up until recently, hopeless struggle against a largely unknown and mindless enemy that brutally devours humans with no conscience of their actions. It has a psychological and political element to it as well because of the internal affairs of the society which they live it and the deep-rooted but sympathetic fears of the characters who are told to sacrifice their lives in a battle that they will likely lose in. The few victories they have had would be considered Pyrrhic. I think AoT really goes out of its way to make its characters flawed and relatable, which is one of the main draws for me. Considering how they're living in a desperate and fearful society, it's understandable. If you want explicit maturity of the more graphical kind, there's plenty of it. I think even one of the characters shot themselves in the head with a rifle rather than be eated by the invading titans. The only one who might fit the "typical" mould of a fearless and badass anime warrior is Levi, maybe Mikasa too, albeit she can still be emotional at times. |
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| FutureProtagonist | Oct 19 2015, 04:48 AM Post #28 |
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Everything Shonen is ridiculously over the top - emotions, battles, relationships, principles, everything. That doesn't work well in Attack on Titan's apocalypse. Everything is too clear-cut in that universe; there's the guys we sympathize with - the struggling the poor people being eaten, and the people we hate - the oppressive government full of decadence, sloth and elitism. Attack on Titan's tone demands something more realistic. It is a cartoon, but a lot of it's characters are cartoony in a very bad way. |
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| Thiln | Oct 19 2015, 07:22 AM Post #29 |
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Well it's as you said - AoT is an anime so creative liberties and exaggerations are a rule of thumb. A more realistic setting would in fact be difficult to render with any significant degree of accuracy or faith to the source material because of how fantastic and implausible the universe is. It's like asking why the Dark Knight trilogy only shows Batman using mostly Keysi fighting tactics instead of the 127 different martial arts styles he supposedly knows from the comics. Besides, they already tried a live action rendition and from what I understand, it was poorly received. I would argue that some of the villains do have multiple layers to their characterisation. In spite of their actions, they do have backgrounds, motivations, desires and alliegiances which we don't quite understand at the moment and make them appear like more than just cackling psychopaths who enjoy killing. |
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| Notaka | Oct 19 2015, 07:28 PM Post #30 |
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What about Elfen Lied ? It's a cool one, I binged watched it. |
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