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Which version of Cell is Dabra equal to?
Topic Started: Oct 7 2015, 10:39 PM (9,736 Views)
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It's absurd that Dabra would expend his energy on Son Gohan when he knows that he may potentially have to fight 2 other warrior stronger than the one he is currently against. With that said, Dabra leaves the fight that he supposedly sucked at without fatigue (unlike Son).
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Oct 7 2015, 11:11 PM
AT's original intention might have been Super-Perfect Cell, but that doesn't work so only around the power Cell used against Goku.
This makes the most sense to me.

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I think you can see the issue with SSJ Kid Gohan being anywhere near Full Powered Perfect Cell.

Although Cell isn't able to damage Gohan initially, once he goes full speed he completely blindsides Gohan and the kid is unable to so much as defend himself. Heck, the only reason he even gets that one kick off is the fact that Cell practically runs into him and it certainly didn't do much beyond a bloody lip. If SSJ Kid Gohan was actually near FP Cell, even if he's too afraid to fight directly, shouldn't he still have the speed to avoid his attacks or at least show the effort?

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It's absurd that Dabra would expend his energy on Son Gohan when he knows that he may potentially have to fight 2 other warrior stronger than the one he is currently against. With that said, Dabra leaves the fight that he supposedly sucked at without fatigue (unlike Son).
They were both huffing during their intermissions.
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It's absurd that Dabra would expend his energy on Son Gohan when he knows that he may potentially have to fight 2 other warrior stronger than the one he is currently against. With that said, Dabra leaves the fight that he supposedly sucked at without fatigue (unlike Son).
They were both huffing during their intermissions.
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Gohan was clearly more fatigued than Dabra however.
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Gohan needed a Senzu to fight an opponent who he was already fighting; that implies that the other guy isn't that damaged or tired.
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It's absurd that Dabra would expend his energy on Son Gohan when he knows that he may potentially have to fight 2 other warrior stronger than the one he is currently against. With that said, Dabra leaves the fight that he supposedly sucked at without fatigue (unlike Son).
They were both huffing during their intermissions.
Scratch that, I am a fool.

Gohan was clearly more fatigued than Dabra however.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Dabura was barely doing any damage to Gohan in the first place. Even Babidi called him out on this and who knows how long the fight had been going on since the issues at the tournament. I mean its hard to have Dabura significantly over Gohan when he can't even take much of his energy way through damage. Add this, calling SSJ Goku only glowing, calling Piccolo trash (for you people who have Piccolo above Base Saiyans) and thinking he's going to whoop Fat Boo.

Well...I'm honestly taking more things from Gotenks seriously than this guy. In fact other than treating Piccolo like trash and the Base Saiyans being stronger (which at least has support with the whole Vegeta confidence on the plane issue) Is anything Dabura not absolute BS or contradicted later on?
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I think he was comparing him to Full power Perfect Cell.


Super perfect cell is impossible because Goku never sensed his power(or did he ?)
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If you have Gohan as SSJ, around Perfect Cell (VS Goku) is the only possibility.
If you have Gohan as SSJ2, two possibilities : Power Weighted Cell and Perfect Cell (less likely, however).
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Goku could just be speaking of Cell in a general sense, which gives a wide spectrum. It'd be kinda weird if Goku was referring to a specific suppressed state...
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he was refering to the cell he personaly witnessed, the Perfect cell pre zenkai, who was suppressed and fought with goku so

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The most logical choice is Zenkai Cell or full power regular Cell. If the comparison is really a suppressed Cell, then in a way, he's not really comparing Dabra to Cell, he's comparing Dabra to a level of power that Cell used one time, it's not really Cell's power. Imagine if after Ginyu was defeated, Vegeta said "Nappa's power was about on par with Kakarot's" because he's talking about Goku's power when he was suppressed to 5,000, or if someone said "regular (Namek) Goku was about on par with Freeza". He's on par with suppressed Freeza, but he ain't on par with Freeza.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The only thing Goku says though is that Dabura could've been a threat seven years ago and that he was probably around the same level of power as Cell. Considering Cell was already notably stronger than everyone than Kid Gohan just in his fight with Goku alone, that area for Dabura still fits perfectly. Had Dabura been there seven years ago, practically nobody but Gohan would've stood a chance against him to begin with.

Add in the whole Dabura can barely hold the advantage against a clearly SSJ Adult Gohan and you get into a lot of difficulties trying to put Dabura anywhere near Perfect cell or Zenkai Cell. So you got to narrow your choices down.

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He's nowhere near the same power as Cell, the comparison is totally erroneous.

How about "He would have been a tough opponent, but not as tough as Cell, and we beat that guy 7 years ago. He'll be no problem now." Same sentiment, way more accurate.

Is there any reasonable explanation for Gohan not being able to use SSJ2? Is there anything about this entire sequence that makes any kind of sense whatsoever? All I've got is two inexplicable retcons: Gohan now can't turn SSJ2 without getting angry and Dabra is now nowhere near Cell. A couple of sparks would have solved this entire issue.
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