How many mass shootings will it take?

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How many mass shootings will it take?
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+ Steve	Oct 2 2015, 02:23 PM Post #1
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/01/obama-on-mass-shooting-this-is-a-political-choice-that-we-make-to-allow-this-to-happen-every-few-months-in-america/ It's beyond ridiculous now. The laws and restrictions should have been changed years ago, hopefully Obama can get something done about it. I think it's really sad how people can read about these situations and only think "but ma freedums!" is a little bit of inconvenience really worth the cost of innocent life to these blatantly selfish people? The whole "freedom" angle is nonsense, should it not be priority that people have the freedom to walk on the street or go to school without the risk of being shot? Of all the people who own guns in America I bet not even 1% actually need them(aside from people employed to use them) Would it be so much to ask that a bit more of a background check, some testing and some training at the very least was part of the process for getting a gun? When is it going to end?
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*Copy_Ninja*	Oct 2 2015, 02:31 PM Post #2
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	Here's a timeline of what's going to happen in reaction to this: 1. Next few days will be people advocating for more gun control, probably some of the more left leaning Democrats in Congress but mostly from more liberal media within and outside of the US 2. Strong push back from people who are anti gun control. Expect some strong op-ed articles from more conservative types. 3. As the above goes one way and the next, discussion will soon turn to doing more for those with mental illness to prevent more of this from happening. 4. Everyone just argues over every single point until eventually we all get tired from it. The event will have been long enough ago that the initial pain and shock has worn off, so with that interest gone we will move on and nothing will have been done about it. It's depressing how this has become normal now. When I heard the news I wasn't even shocked. My first reaction was "Oh what, again?" And I hate that.
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SpeedoTrunks	Oct 2 2015, 02:33 PM Post #3
Posts: 908 Group: Member Member #9,238 Joined: March 22, 2013 Gender Not Specified	I think, unfortunately, that this will just keep going and going. The whole thing with America I find, if not necessarily the physical guns themselves, its being told "you cant have one....[without proper enforced rules]" . That and the main argument seeming to be "But what if another person with a gun attacks me, I need a gun too! that was we can shoot each other an be on a level playing field" or something crazy. It works well here in the UK, that you can have certain guns but only on a very strict license/back ground check. And even then you have to keep the gun itself in a locked container away from the ammunition, normally outside the house that you live in. That way, we all stop shooting people without really seriously thinking about it first, and even then you wouldn't have a gun with a proven history of mental illness.



+ Ginyu	Oct 2 2015, 03:03 PM Post #4
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	It's going to keep going. Pro-gun advocates actually use mass-shootings to promote more guns in the country.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Oct 2 2015, 03:51 PM Post #5
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	It won't end. Criminals will always get guns
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+ Pelador	Oct 2 2015, 03:54 PM Post #6
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	It might end if people had easier access to mental health treatment.
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+ Steve	Oct 2 2015, 05:57 PM Post #7
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	GinyuTokusentai Oct 2 2015, 03:03 PM It's going to keep going. Pro-gun advocates actually use mass-shootings to promote more guns in the country. I find that hilarious. Perhaps they should start training kids from birth how to wield a weapon? Never know when another kindergartner could be packing heat yo. It's really sad how it's just not a priority. Who cares about the lives of innocent civilians when you can shoot cans in the back yard or pretend your Clint Eastwood? I hope Obama really pushes it, obviously a ban won't work out but restrictions, any restrictions at least. Kinda sad that even though there are no actual wars in America it's still practically a warzone half the time. I also love whenever you mention the situation in the UK and people are like "but you have loads of stabbings!" I'd rather take on a drunk fool with a knife than a guy with an assault rifle hopped up on PCP, thank you very much.
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lazerbem	Oct 2 2015, 07:05 PM Post #8
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Quote: Kinda sad that even though there are no actual wars in America it's still practically a warzone half the time. Don't exaggerate. We're hardly Mexico or Somalia. Gun control is a fine thing to have, imo. I have no particular want to use a gun and if someone with a gun is aiming at me, I doubt I could ever stop them. I do want to note that if gun control does happen, it has to be enforced and have a hard line approach to it. If it's not taken seriously, as it has been in several countries that did that, then it means nothing.
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+ Steve	Oct 2 2015, 10:02 PM Post #9
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Maybe not but people act as though it is, like you need a gun because every other day a gang is going to attack your house or something which obviously doesn't actually happen, at least not to many people. And yeah I find that silly "if someone has a gun I want my own so I can defend myself" No, you're already dead, unless you have spider senses and whip your weapon out before your assailant. It's a nice thought on paper but obviously ideally the assailant shouldn't have access to a gun in the first place.
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* Yu Narukami	Oct 2 2015, 10:18 PM Post #10
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	If a person wants to own a gun, they should have to go through an extensive training course, as well as a thorough background check. A register should also exist in order to keep track of guns. Are these restrictions on people's freedom? Yes, they are. However, a person's freedom isn't more important than innocent lives. If a mass shooting were to happen tomorrow and a few people in the room happened to have guns, what would happen? Would we get this amazing story about these heroes who killed the bad guy with a gun? Or would we be throwing more armed people into the situation and endanger people's lives in the inevitable shoot-out? People who're dead-set on killing others with guns will eventually get guns. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything in our power to deter people who're considering it, though. If these restrictions were in place, many people may think that it just isn't worth their time. Also, just to echo what people have said before, there needs to be a major overhaul when it comes to how the US deals with mental illness.



+ Steve	Oct 2 2015, 10:45 PM Post #11
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	I just don't see how people can argue against that. By their logic, why are Americans not free to go buy a car and drive it, running over anyone in the process? Obviously cars are dangerous, so you first have to be taught how to use one and have to pass some tests before you have the freedom to use a car on your own. Guns should be exactly the same, especially since they're specifically designed to injure or kill, unlike cars. Of course, crazy people can and do get cars and murder people with them and that would be no reason to ban all cars but with all the testing it'd probably be evidently clear to driving instructors that some people should not be behind a wheel ever. Not to mention all the accidents that happen with guns, people clearly need to be taught how to handle a weapon and where to keep it safe so kids aren't blowing their fingers off.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Oct 2 2015, 11:04 PM Post #12
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	Copy_Ninja Oct 2 2015, 02:31 PM Here's a timeline of what's going to happen in reaction to this: 1. Next few days will be people advocating for more gun control, probably some of the more left leaning Democrats in Congress but mostly from more liberal media within and outside of the US 2. Strong push back from people who are anti gun control. Expect some strong op-ed articles from more conservative types. 3. As the above goes one way and the next, discussion will soon turn to doing more for those with mental illness to prevent more of this from happening. 4. Everyone just argues over every single point until eventually we all get tired from it. The event will have been long enough ago that the initial pain and shock has worn off, so with that interest gone we will move on and nothing will have been done about it. It's depressing how this has become normal now. When I heard the news I wasn't even shocked. My first reaction was "Oh what, again?" And I hate that. yep my sentiments exact, '' oh another one?'' shame really



Tinny	Oct 3 2015, 01:18 AM Post #13
Posts: 6,060 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Nagito Komaeda Oct 2 2015, 10:18 PM If a person wants to own a gun, they should have to go through an extensive training course, as well as a thorough background check. A register should also exist in order to keep track of guns. Are these restrictions on people's freedom? Yes, they are. However, a person's freedom isn't more important than innocent lives. If a mass shooting were to happen tomorrow and a few people in the room happened to have guns, what would happen? Would we get this amazing story about these heroes who killed the bad guy with a gun? Or would we be throwing more armed people into the situation and endanger people's lives in the inevitable shoot-out? People who're dead-set on killing others with guns will eventually get guns. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything in our power to deter people who're considering it, though. If these restrictions were in place, many people may think that it just isn't worth their time. Also, just to echo what people have said before, there needs to be a major overhaul when it comes to how the US deals with mental illness. Just connect it in some way to freedom, can't be free if you fear for your life because any psycho can get a gun. But honestly yeah, it's easy enough to get guns without outright mandating them, they need tighter control you echo gets them.
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lazerbem	Oct 3 2015, 01:36 AM Post #14
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Nagito Komaeda Oct 2 2015, 10:18 PM If a person wants to own a gun, they should have to go through an extensive training course, as well as a thorough background check. A register should also exist in order to keep track of guns. Are these restrictions on people's freedom? Yes, they are. However, a person's freedom isn't more important than innocent lives. If a mass shooting were to happen tomorrow and a few people in the room happened to have guns, what would happen? Would we get this amazing story about these heroes who killed the bad guy with a gun? Or would we be throwing more armed people into the situation and endanger people's lives in the inevitable shoot-out? People who're dead-set on killing others with guns will eventually get guns. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything in our power to deter people who're considering it, though. If these restrictions were in place, many people may think that it just isn't worth their time. Also, just to echo what people have said before, there needs to be a major overhaul when it comes to how the US deals with mental illness. I don't quite get the mental illness thing. What's there to do when no one even thought he was ill? When he was making posts that said violence against cops wasn't the answer? How was someone supposed to know he was ill to begin with?
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Zoom	Oct 3 2015, 05:19 AM Post #15
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Why can't America follow the cop system? Cops don't hand out guns to rookie cops unless they pass tests.



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