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How hard to Goku and Beerus punch
Topic Started: Sep 23 2015, 06:04 AM (4,394 Views)
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I saw this and wondered how hard do these god characters punch

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Thier striking so hard that the shockwaves are exiting the physical realms of the universe and entering even the kaioshin realm (Which is even above the after life)

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Weaker than planet level since the planet isn't even scratched
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Well Elder Kaioshin says the universe is in danger, so hard enough to break the universe?
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Metaphysical I imagine? Big AoE but it doesn't actually do anything aside from rumble it. So yeah, not nearly as impressive as it looks. Might as well call Twilight a city buster going by that.
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Sep 23 2015, 02:30 PM
Metaphysical I imagine? Big AoE but it doesn't actually do anything aside from rumble it. So yeah, not nearly as impressive as it looks. Might as well call Twilight a city buster going by that.
Yea but shockwaves are exiting the universe and entering the afterlife and beyond, shouldnt that is be impressive at all, That should be impossible as its entering the realm of the dead.
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The shockwaves are somehow powerful enough to reach the Kaioshin realm and threaten to destroy the Universe, but weak enough to not destroy anything. Before anyone says about Goku/Beerus somehow diverting the power away from the Earth, we'd be shown other stuff being destroyed, but we can conclude that the shockwave didn't actually destroy anything.
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Sep 23 2015, 03:07 PM
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Sep 23 2015, 02:30 PM
Metaphysical I imagine? Big AoE but it doesn't actually do anything aside from rumble it. So yeah, not nearly as impressive as it looks. Might as well call Twilight a city buster going by that.
Yea but shockwaves are exiting the universe and entering the afterlife and beyond, shouldnt that is be impressive at all, That should be impossible as its entering the realm of the dead.
Which is why I called it metaphysical. There's really no way that it's breaking into the afterlife (which is part of the db universe) with sheer force... It doesn't competently rip Earth apart at all.
Thus it's less than planet destroying, but somehow spans the universe including the afterlife. It looks impressive, but doesn't really tell you anything. If I had to say I'd say that god ki fighters battling each other with said god ki causes the afterlife to rumble, rather than the strength of said fighters specifically. A product of god ki instead of strength, and that explanation is with a gun to my head and probably imperfect.
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The universe is in danger but the earth is fine. It's weird. Maybe we're looking too much into it and ther punches are actually really dam strong idk
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Odin shook the *long dead galaxies* but it never destroyed the galaxies, the fight itself was taking place on an earth-like planet, yet that same planet didn't get destroyed.


The difference between the two feats, is that Beerus and Goku's was reaching outside of the universe.

Meanwhile odin's feat, was merely shaking long dead galaxies, and the planet they were on didn't get destroyed.

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The feat itself is impressive. Odin has been shown to destroy galaxy, in one of his older versions. So obviously the feat itself is impressive, the one which Goku and Beerus did.

TTGL, their feat is less impressive than what Beerus and Goku did, they had to use their "drill" aswell as their size, which is way bigger than galaxies, yet it wasn't reaching outside of the universe.

And it certainly didn't destroy anything. It merely shook everything within the universe, and it certainly didn't destroy the galaxy they were "standing on", when fighting.

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Edit: What TTGL did, was using their "drills", which is less impressive, than using fist.

And what's more, TTGL's robotic size's varies from way above multi solar system size, to 50% of the universe's size.



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Sorry for spamming, here is the full context:

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Bout to get lectured on why it's possible for Marvel and impossible for Dragon Ball lol. I wanna see what's said further on now.
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Sep 23 2015, 02:22 PM
Weaker than planet level since the planet isn't even scratched
Frieza could punch away planet busters and smack earth into dust but his punches dont travel Thst far.
The shockwaves were like vibrations thst were gonna cause things to eventually crumble. Thats why elder kai said the universe will be destroyed and not is being destroyed. Even a solar kamehameha struggle only left a little crater and shook earth. Goku and Beerus shook all of universe seven abd almost made it crumble from Earths stratosphere.
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Sep 23 2015, 03:43 PM
The shockwaves are somehow powerful enough to reach the Kaioshin realm and threaten to destroy the Universe, but weak enough to not destroy anything. Before anyone says about Goku/Beerus somehow diverting the power away from the Earth, we'd be shown other stuff being destroyed, but we can conclude that the shockwave didn't actually destroy anything.
Not that they were weak they were spread out and building up. Everything was gonna be gone at once. Things weren't being destroyed but in the process through heavy shaking.
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The shockwaves are confirmed to be able to destroy anything if the fight continued.
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Everyone, there's an edit function, please use it

I can't say anything about Odin, but with Anti-Spiral and TTGL, they were fighting in Super Spiral Space, a place that is absolutely controlled by the Anti-Spiral. The Anti-Spiral wants to protect the universe, so he'd obviously not want the fight to spill out of control and the Super Spiral Space mimics that. In any case, when TTGL and Anti-Spiral hit each other, they do in fact destroy galaxies. Hell, Anti-Spiral flings them like shurikens and smashes them together to use Infinity Big Bang Storm. On the subject of Infinity Big Bang Storm, it was creating new galaxies every single second it kept on firing and absorbing it made it possible for the TTGL to defeat the omnipotent(in Super Spiral Space) Anti-Spiral.

If you want to use the movie, then Neo Granzeboma and STTGL's drill clash not only destroyed Super Spiral Space, but recreated it just seconds later as well.

In the meantime, Goku and Beers just kind of make ripples. It's actually less impressive than the effects of SSJ3 Goku's transformation, in fact, in terms of effects on the planet.
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