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Super Saiyan and powering up
Topic Started: Sep 21 2015, 01:15 AM (571 Views)
DEY DID DIS 2 ME Sep 21 2015, 01:15 AM Post #1
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 Before the Super Saiyans underwent Super Saiyan training in RoSaT, what is the lowest percentage of power do you think a Super Saiyan can be in without suppressing or being damaged or fatigued. I think 80%, but could it be as low as 60% or 50%? Can Super Saiyans pre-RoSaT even power up?

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+ Pyrus Sep 21 2015, 01:45 AM Post #2
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 No suppression for non-mastered Super Saiyans. Maybe a relaxed state where they're unintentionally at a lower state of power, but that's iffy and borders on the "standing ki vs fighting ki" debate.
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DEY DID DIS 2 ME Sep 21 2015, 02:00 AM Post #3
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Sep 21 2015, 01:45 AM
No suppression for non-mastered Super Saiyans. Maybe a relaxed state where they're unintentionally at a lower state of power, but that's iffy and borders on the "standing ki vs fighting ki" debate.
iyo, are non-mastered Super Saiyans able to power-up (raise power)?

[  suppressing  ←  stand-by  →  raising power  ]

if there is a "relaxed" or ready/stand-by state, what percentage would you assign?
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+ Pyrus Sep 22 2015, 12:41 AM Post #4
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Pyrus
Sep 21 2015, 01:45 AM
No suppression for non-mastered Super Saiyans. Maybe a relaxed state where they're unintentionally at a lower state of power, but that's iffy and borders on the "standing ki vs fighting ki" debate.
iyo, are non-mastered Super Saiyans able to power-up (raise power)?

[  suppressing  ←  stand-by  →  raising power  ]

if there is a "relaxed" or ready/stand-by state, what percentage would you assign?
Right now, I think anyone can power up. Vegeta and Nappa did it when they couldn't suppress their power.

A relaxed level? Eh, not sure. Somewhere above 50% but below 100%. >_<
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Southern Gothic Sep 22 2015, 12:56 AM Post #5
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 I would assume there is a sort of "flexing mode" when they squeeze hard and their veins pop out. I don't know how else to describe it besides powering up. But yeah, a few crewd ways of powering up seem to be there, but not with a lot of control and mastery.

Basically, before training, I see them having a regular fighting mode and a full power mode without a lot in between.
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+ Clearin Sep 22 2015, 12:56 AM Post #6
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 Pretty low honestly. A fighter rarely ever lost Super Saiyan until they were completely knocked out. In fact I'm not sure a character ever lost Super Saiyan while still being concious, other than Goku vs #19, and in that case he was probably forced out of it not only due to the strain of Super Saiyan, but also the heart virus. So I don't think a character has a minimum amount needed for Super Saiyan as long as they're still concious.
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+ Pyrus Sep 22 2015, 01:31 AM Post #7
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 Vegeta didn't seem able to use the form after fighting #19, but perhaps it wouldn't have mattered.
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+ Clearin Sep 22 2015, 01:32 AM Post #8
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 That's kind of hard to tell. Vegeta held the form well enough until Dr Gero had escaped. It's just hard to use the form since it causes a strain, so there was no point in Vegeta straining his body when the threat was gone.
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+ Pyrus Sep 22 2015, 02:02 AM Post #9
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Sep 22 2015, 01:32 AM
That's kind of hard to tell. Vegeta held the form well enough until Dr Gero had escaped. It's just hard to use the form since it causes a strain, so there was no point in Vegeta straining his body when the threat was gone.
I mean before Vegeta bluffed his way out of a fight.
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+ Clearin Sep 22 2015, 02:05 AM Post #10
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Sep 22 2015, 01:32 AM
That's kind of hard to tell. Vegeta held the form well enough until Dr Gero had escaped. It's just hard to use the form since it causes a strain, so there was no point in Vegeta straining his body when the threat was gone.
I mean before Vegeta bluffed his way out of a fight.
Oh yeah, that did happen before Dr Gero had left. Don't mind me, just being a forgetful idiot.
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DEY DID DIS 2 ME Sep 22 2015, 07:12 AM Post #11
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 I know this is post-RoSaT, but Son Goku Super Saiyan 3 was supposed to have been able to end Boo with his max power (whatever that means). I'd assume that means that Son Goku could have raised his power further.

But yeah, as stated, power can drop by damage or fatigue, but barring that, how low (in terms of percentage) could Super Saiyan power be before it is considering suppressing?

i.e.

Nappa's scouter for Clearin: 1083
Clearin's fighting power: 1500+
Clearin actively suppressing power: some number

[ some number  ← 1083 →  1500+ ]
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+ Clearin Sep 22 2015, 02:52 PM Post #12
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I know this is post-RoSaT, but Son Goku Super Saiyan 3 was supposed to have been able to end Boo with his max power (whatever that means). I'd assume that means that Son Goku could have raised his power further.

But yeah, as stated, power can drop by damage or fatigue, but barring that, how low (in terms of percentage) could Super Saiyan power be before it is considering suppressing?

i.e.

Nappa's scouter for Clearin: 1083
Clearin's fighting power: 1500+
Clearin actively suppressing power: some number

[ some number  ← 1083 →  1500+ ]
Pretty sure Krillin was actively suppressing there since it was those power levels that made Vegeta tell Nappa to ditch the scouters since that number was useless due to the fact they can suppress powers.
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* Ketchup Revenge Sep 22 2015, 11:34 PM Post #13
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

 I don't believe they can suppress, however, they might be able to disguise their ki as something else.
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