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| Should Politics be a compulsory lesson in Elementary School? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 19 2015, 03:14 PM (1,497 Views) | |
| * Yu Narukami | Sep 19 2015, 03:14 PM Post #1 |
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I'm of the opinion that it should be. We need an educated populace when it comes to voting in elections. Too many people leave school without having the faintest idea of the political landscape and have no idea past the preconceived notions of what the political parties stand for. I think that teachers should be evaluated monthly to ensure that their lessons are unbiased and purely factual. That way, we can ensure that they aren't putting any of their own views into the information that they're providing. Honestly, I don't see any other way of educating the masses about Politics. Right now, it's up to the individual. Voter apathy is a big problem and that's largely due to people not understanding the system and thinking that ''all politicians are the same.'' If the new generation grow up learning about Politics, they'll be in a much better position to cast their vote. If they decide not to vote, they can cite legitimate reasons to explain why they didn't vote instead of throwing out a general excuse that anyone could see through. What's your opinion on this? |
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| + Pelador | Sep 19 2015, 03:17 PM Post #2 |
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I agree. I spent years completely misunderstanding what each party stood for and when I went to vote for the first time this year, I didn't understand what to do. |
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| + Ginyu | Sep 19 2015, 04:20 PM Post #3 |
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We've got this in the Netherlands, or at least a form of it. You learn everything about society, from how the government works in the Netherlands and the EU to actual politics. Unfortunately we don't have a thing for bias. My teacher right now has an obvious bias when it comes to certain subjects, which annoys me immensely because I tend to disagree with him. I can't even really blame him. I can't imagine myself being super neutral when discussing same-sex marriage, abortion or religion. Then there is also the problem of mistaking objectivity with neutrality. What do we want the teachers to be? Objective or Neutral? You often can't be both. |
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| peep | Sep 19 2015, 04:29 PM Post #4 |
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dunno about the rest of the US but California high schools are required to teach students about government for one term. my course wasn't too in-depth but it taught about how the American political system works and some of the history of its foreign policy |
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| + Pelador | Sep 19 2015, 04:56 PM Post #5 |
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I learned about all that stuff in history class including the American system. What I didn't learn was voting procedures and current policy. |
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| * Mitas | Sep 19 2015, 05:29 PM Post #6 |
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I guess so. Obviously it would be a good thing for younger generations to come of voting age with a better knowledge and grasp on the political system and all it's ins and outs. Personally though, I'm not interested in politics. It's probably a viewpoint that many people would see as the problem with the voting public these days, but I just don't care enough to get involved in something where my one vote doesn't make any difference. Plus, I don't like the idea of say, being a Labour supporter, and voting for that party, and then being stuck under a government I didn't vote for. I'd rather not care who's in charge and just adapt to whatever comes my way. However, not everyone will feel that way, and compulsory political lessons could reach younger generations who feel the way I do and change their attitudes, or influence them to chase a political career that could help the nation in the future. |
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| + Green | Sep 19 2015, 05:54 PM Post #7 |
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I know I had to take classes on the US government when I was in school, which did briefly cover politics. I wouldn't suggest teaching it at the elementary school level because it's too complicated and there are more important basics that they should be working on. |
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| + Yusuke | Sep 19 2015, 05:59 PM Post #8 |
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I think we have it just fine here in Canada. We learn about general political parties in 5th Grade (10 years old) and then we learn about the ideologies of these parties when we're in 10th Grade (15 years old). We then have the option to learn more about the political system in our senior years of High School so by the time were of voting age, we clearly understand the political landscape of our country. |
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| + Steve | Sep 19 2015, 06:23 PM Post #9 |
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As much as all this s*** bores me it is important to know, I can't be arsed learning it but if it was part of the curriculum I wouldn't have much choice but to take at least some of it in. They should cut useless s*** like trigonometry and algebra out and other worthless stuff we do in school that could be in optional advanced classes instead. Perhaps it could be worked in to RME? Obviously the name would need to change since it doesn't fit in with Religious and Moral Education but it's certainly a class that can cover a broad selection of topics. Wonder if it's not really an important part of school because it makes it easier for politicians to grab votes, since people won't really know what's going on they'll just see s*** like "BETTER WAGES" and vote for someone, without realizing this persons campaign will shaft them in a multitude of other ways. |
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Sep 19 2015, 06:45 PM Post #10 |
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Definitely not, we hear enough about bulls*** politics when we are adults, let kids have their childhood, and at the end of the day learning about politics makes ZERO difference on how the country works, the normal person has no say / power in what happens. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Sep 19 2015, 07:17 PM Post #11 |
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They do have a say, actually. If everybody who could vote did vote, we'd have a completely different political landscape. Saying that voting makes no difference is circular. Nothing changes because people don't vote, and people don't vote because nothing changes. If the new generation actually understood the political system and atmosphere that they're living in, they're going to vote based on how policies effect them. Right now, the media is presenting parties as groups that fit into one of the political stereotypes; ''Republicans are for Freedom'' and ''Democrats are for Government.'' in America, for example. Many people vote based on those extremely broad assumptions; they don't have the time or the desire to actually look at the party's policies and manifestos come election time, so they either vote from ignorance or don't vote at all. Could you imagine how well independent candidates could do if they were actually known? Alas, they're 'wasted votes' because not enough people vote for them, as people are too used to the current system of Politics, without knowing that the system could easily accommodate a large number of independent politicians. To put it in simple terms; a lot of people have power. A large group of people saying that they don't have power doesn't make any sense. If all the people who didn't vote due to their 'lack of power' actually voted, it would have a drastic impact on Politics as a whole. Perhaps Elementary School would be too early. Secondary School would be good though, as they'd have a better chance at understanding the material and taking it seriously. @Ginyu Neutral, more than anything. They need to provide historical information on elections in the past, information on how the voting system works and the policies of each party. Perhaps have class debates on the topic and let each of the students develop their own political views. As long as the teacher puts aside their own views and remains neutral on the topic, I don't see this being too difficult to do. Edited by Yu Narukami, Sep 19 2015, 07:29 PM.
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| Buuberries | Sep 19 2015, 09:27 PM Post #12 |
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Not primary school, but definitely the start of secondary school would be good. Mine only had it as a gcse class for years 10 and 11, but that's only if you picked the subject. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Sep 19 2015, 09:34 PM Post #13 |
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My secondary school didn't have Politics in GCSE and, to my knowledge, it was absent from Sixth Form as well. I had to wait until I went to College 'till I could study Politics. While I did talk with my Secondary School teachers about Politics and we did have a few PCSE lessons dedicated to it around election time, it was alarmingly absent from my school life. |
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Sep 19 2015, 09:45 PM Post #14 |
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Of course not... The classes would include too much bias. It's best to keep politics as moderate as possible, and I can definitely see Teachers being biased for a certain political affiliation. Besides, I actually think people who don't understand politics and don't care to are actually smarter than those that are extremely biased toward a side or party. I have no opinion on the liberal movement, the conservative backlash, etc, other than that it all needs to be eradicated. Edited by Big Green The Yoshi, Sep 19 2015, 09:49 PM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Sep 19 2015, 09:56 PM Post #15 |
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That's why Teachers would be checked on regularly to make sure they're not putting their views into the information they're providing. ''Labour's policy is this. Conservatives' policy is this.'' Opinions don't have to play a part at all. My Religious Studies teacher was a devout Christian, but that didn't show in the way that she taught; she covered all the different Religions in the course without a hint of bias. It's honestly not that hard to separate your opinion from the facts. They're not biased because they're ignorant about the different parties. What about those who vote without understanding Politics? Do you really think a vote coming from complete ignorance is a good thing? Not everybody's going to side with a party once they know their policies, they could easily vote independent or cite a legitimate reason to abstain. What would you replace it with? At the end of the day, 'Liberals' and 'Conservatives' are just labels. Politics is always going to be divisive and people are always going to fall under the umbrella of two opposing sides. |
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