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Krillin or Tien?
Topic Started: Sep 17 2015, 09:10 AM (5,526 Views)
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I don't really see why it can't be discussed without people being sensitive or overly defensive about it. I'm more of a Ten fan, but it's fact that Krillen is stronger in Z, and unless proven otherwise, in Super as well. But regardless of what reasoning you want to use, he was presented stronger in RoF. The fact that some people are getting their panties twisted over asserting what's a pretty reason observation about a non canon movie is pretty telling.
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The same film that suggested that Krillin could get killed by a bunch of low-power Freeza soldiers. It lost all credibility when it suggested that, as well as everyone getting tired while fighting the Freeza soldiers.
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Sep 18 2015, 02:49 AM
The same film that suggested that Krillin could get killed by a bunch of low-power Freeza soldiers. It lost all credibility when it suggested that, as well as everyone getting tired while fighting the Freeza soldiers.
I didn't say it had a ton of credibility, I've been critical of it's lack of credibility, that's why I'm happy and optimistic with the potential of Super retelling it. It's not even canon anyway.
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I don't count Tien as a Human. I don't think his age will play a factor.

He's either a Mutant (meaning Age might not effect him normally) or he is part Alien (meaning Age might not effect him normally). I say this because Humans don't have three eyes and have the ability to grow extra arms. Even in Dragonball verse no other human showed these characteristics. Exclusive to Tien.

Feat wise Tien has displayed more than Krillin throughout the entire series.

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Based on what has been displayed Tien is stronger. Even the statement of Krillin being the strongest Human bothers me since if Tien is classified as part Human in any way in that statement then Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Android 18 (She's a Cyborg just a Human + Tech) should be included as well making Krillin more powerful than all of them (Which we know he is not).
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Tenshinhan is simply an enlightened Earthling. I don't recall if it was ever confirmed that he was part alien.
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Toriyama said he got the eye through enlightenment iirc. Daizenshuu states he's a descendent from the "third eye clan", I don't even recall if they said they were aliens. Regardless, the same volume of Daiz also classifies him as an Earthling human, same as Krillin.
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The aforementioned Daizenshuu volume says that Tenshinhan is a "descendant of the 3-eyed tribe," who are themselves the "descendants of aliens." So he's got some minute amount of alien blood in him, the same way the playable Earthlings in DB Online are like 1/1000th Saiyan from being distant descendants of Goku and Vegeta.

That same guidebook STILL groups him in as an Earthling, right there next to Kuririn. It's a moot point. Kuririn's still stronger, like everything with an opinion to give says he is.
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Tenshinhan is an earthling regardless of any credibility the Daizenshuu has on his possible alien blood, so the argument that he's not included in comparison to Krillin and Yamcha is derpish at best.
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Sep 18 2015, 04:51 AM
Tenshinhan is an earthling regardless of any credibility the Daizenshuu has on his possible alien blood, so the argument that he's not included in comparison to Krillin and Yamcha is derpish at best.
Not Earthling, but Human. DBZ has Anthropomorphics that are Earthlings but not Human.

The strongest Human comment is what bothers me since Androids 17/18 are Human, Gohan is Human, Goten and Trunks are Human. All of them have things that exclude them from this "Krillin is the strongest Human" statement, so why not Tien? He's obviously not Human in many ways, even if it's traces of alien blood or being "enlightened"

The only thing indicating Krillin is stronger is the statement from RoF that Krillin is the strongest Human.

If we exclude /1718 because they aren't a "normal" human, the Half-Saiyans because he isn't a "normal" human then we should exclude Tien because he's obviously not a "normal" human.

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I am always literally amazed by people who "fap" to Tien. I mean yes he is cool etc. but they fapiness going to the point of absurd, when they deny facts stated in themanga itself and try to prove that tien was more useful in series, despite the fact that Tien became irrelevant in saiyan saga, while Kuririn stayed relevant to early parts of Android Saga. Kuririn is stronger, it is fact. He was fighting on the frontlines with Frieza while Tien had holidays.
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Tien prevented Cell from absorbing 18 before Vegeta could finish his training, while all Krillin did was to destroy that remote control and give senzu beans to yamcha. In Buu Saga Tien saved Dende and Mr Satan, who later convince the humans to give their energy to Goku. In Super Tien tries to stop Beerus with Piccolo and 18,while Krillin when is asked to fight, replies he doesn't fight anymore. Combat-wise Krillin is relevant till Frieza Saga, while Tien at least till Cell or even Buu saga. However Krillin is more important overall as a support character for the main protagonist
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Logically, It would be Tenshinhan since he always train.

But Toriyama confirmed that Krillin is the strongest earthling, so he's the strongest.
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If you're confirmed to be stronger than Tien in Boo Saga even though you stopped to train, the gap has to be massive. I think that his potential unlock has something to do with it. Unless Tien uses the Kikoho, he's toast, and even then, didn't the Kikoho got tanked by Nappa, while the Kienzan nearly killed him ?
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Or maybe the Guru unlock kept working untill Buu Saga,it would make more sense,tbh
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