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Krillin or Tien?
Tweet Topic Started: Sep 17 2015, 09:10 AM (5,527 Views)
Total Warrior	Sep 17 2015, 03:49 PM Post #16
Posts: 503 Group: Member Member #10,993 Joined: March 10, 2014 Gender Male Country Italy Favourite Anime One piece, Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan, One Punch Man	Clearin Sep 17 2015, 03:05 PM Total Warrior Sep 17 2015, 02:57 PM and in a recent interview when asked how master Roshi could have achieved all that power, he replies he Always had been that powerful, he just didn't feel to use all that power. Do you have a source for this? First time I've heard about it. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31347 This is the forum where i found this statement, can't find that interview at the moment,though



Thiln	Sep 17 2015, 04:13 PM Post #17
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	Roshi being so strong flies in the face of the mental note he established back in DB about having no place amongst his students once he realised that they were beginning to surpass him. He wouldn't be so terrified of King Piccolo's return if he could just power up to 100% and obliterate him easily. In this particular instance, I would argue that this is just one of Toriyama's infamous memory blunders where he can't recall all of the finer points about his manga. The same can be said of Piccolo being weak enough for a Zarbon level opponent to make short work of him. It shouldn't matter whether he was exhausted or not. His power would have to be so depleted that he only has less than 0.01% of his total energy left, which should at least be in the hundreds of millions by now, for this to be feasible. As for the original question - according to both the creator and the Daizenshuu, Krillin is the stronger fighter.



FutureProtagonist	Sep 17 2015, 04:22 PM Post #18
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	Clearin Sep 17 2015, 02:16 PM Total Warrior Sep 17 2015, 01:47 PM StrawHatCrew Sep 17 2015, 01:13 PM Tenshinhan is factually stronger. This. In FnF Krillin almost got killed by a bunch of soldiers, after years of non-training he's probably a bit rusty Krillin didn't almost get killed. He flew head first into a tree, because Krillin's always the guy used for comic relief regardless of how strong he is. Exactly. He's reduced to a gag character in every single movie.
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+ Clearin	Sep 17 2015, 04:29 PM Post #19
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Using RoF to try and prove Tien is stronger doesn't even make sense considering the promotional material for the film states Krillin is the strongest.



Mike XL	Sep 17 2015, 05:14 PM Post #20
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	Krillen was stronger in the Buu saga. Tenshinhan was stronger in RoF. In Super? Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. Edited by Mike XL, Sep 17 2015, 05:15 PM.



* Yu Narukami	Sep 17 2015, 05:28 PM Post #21
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:14 PM Krillen was stronger in the Buu saga. Tenshinhan was stronger in RoF. In Super? Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. Again, where is this shown? Tenshinhan used the Kikoho to battle opponents who couldn't have been more than 2,000/3,000.



Total Warrior	Sep 17 2015, 05:35 PM Post #22
Posts: 503 Group: Member Member #10,993 Joined: March 10, 2014 Gender Male Country Italy Favourite Anime One piece, Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan, One Punch Man	There were a lot of opponents stuck at the entrance of that cavern. Using the kikoho was just a clever move to defeat dozens of them instantly



* Yu Narukami	Sep 17 2015, 05:37 PM Post #23
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Total Warrior Sep 17 2015, 05:35 PM There were a lot of opponents stuck at the entrance of that cavern. Using the kikoho was just a clever move to defeat dozens of them instantly Why not use a generic ki attack instead of one that literally uses your life energy? It looked cool. Just like the rest of the fights looked cool. Most of the Z-fighters could've defeated the entire army with ease, it just wouldn't have been fun to watch. Even Freeza states that the army they have is pitiful compared to what it was in the past (bearing in mind that in the past, Krillin and Gohan beat two Freeza Soldiers with ease when they were 1,500).



Mike XL	Sep 17 2015, 05:44 PM Post #24
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	Nagito Komaeda Sep 17 2015, 05:28 PM Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:14 PM Krillen was stronger in the Buu saga. Tenshinhan was stronger in RoF. In Super? Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. Again, where is this shown? Tenshinhan used the Kikoho to battle opponents who couldn't have been more than 2,000/3,000. At the end of the day, Tenshinhan handled the soldiers with no issues and Krillen needed to be bailed out by Gohan. Feats>statements, imo. It doesn't matter much because RoF isn't canon, so in Super, Krillen should be presumed ahead of Tenshinhan until stated or shown otherwise.



* Yu Narukami	Sep 17 2015, 05:57 PM Post #25
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:44 PM Nagito Komaeda Sep 17 2015, 05:28 PM Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:14 PM Krillen was stronger in the Buu saga. Tenshinhan was stronger in RoF. In Super? Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. Again, where is this shown? Tenshinhan used the Kikoho to battle opponents who couldn't have been more than 2,000/3,000. At the end of the day, Tenshinhan handled the soldiers with no issues and Krillen needed to be bailed out by Gohan. Feats>statements, imo. It doesn't matter much because RoF isn't canon, so in Super, Krillen should be presumed ahead of Tenshinhan until stated or shown otherwise. So, Tenshinhan using Kikoho is a better feat? Krillin had more chasing after him and flew into a tree. If any enemy had hit him when he was completely unguarded, it would've done some serious damage, a la Sorbet's Lazer ring.



Mike XL	Sep 17 2015, 06:00 PM Post #26
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	Nagito Komaeda Sep 17 2015, 05:57 PM Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:44 PM Nagito Komaeda Sep 17 2015, 05:28 PM Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:14 PM Krillen was stronger in the Buu saga. Tenshinhan was stronger in RoF. In Super? Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. Again, where is this shown? Tenshinhan used the Kikoho to battle opponents who couldn't have been more than 2,000/3,000. At the end of the day, Tenshinhan handled the soldiers with no issues and Krillen needed to be bailed out by Gohan. Feats>statements, imo. It doesn't matter much because RoF isn't canon, so in Super, Krillen should be presumed ahead of Tenshinhan until stated or shown otherwise. So, Tenshinhan using Kikoho is a better feat? Krillin had more chasing after him and flew into a tree. If any enemy had hit him when he was completely unguarded, it would've done some serious damage, a la Sorbet's Lazer ring. I mean, we could make an excuse or rational for every folly or shortcoming in battle if we wanted to. Is there proof Tenshinhan needed to use the kikoho? Maybe they just wanted to get his signature move in. In any case, he was presented better in the movie



* Yu Narukami	Sep 17 2015, 06:05 PM Post #27
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 06:00 PM Nagito Komaeda Sep 17 2015, 05:57 PM Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:44 PM Nagito Komaeda Sep 17 2015, 05:28 PM Mike XL Sep 17 2015, 05:14 PM Krillen was stronger in the Buu saga. Tenshinhan was stronger in RoF. In Super? Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. Again, where is this shown? Tenshinhan used the Kikoho to battle opponents who couldn't have been more than 2,000/3,000. At the end of the day, Tenshinhan handled the soldiers with no issues and Krillen needed to be bailed out by Gohan. Feats>statements, imo. It doesn't matter much because RoF isn't canon, so in Super, Krillen should be presumed ahead of Tenshinhan until stated or shown otherwise. So, Tenshinhan using Kikoho is a better feat? Krillin had more chasing after him and flew into a tree. If any enemy had hit him when he was completely unguarded, it would've done some serious damage, a la Sorbet's Lazer ring. I mean, we could make an excuse or rational for every folly or shortcoming in battle if we wanted to. Is there proof Tenshinhan needed to use the kikoho? Maybe they just wanted to get his signature move in. In any case, he was presented better in the movie That wasn't the case for anyone else. We don't see Gohan pulling out the Masenko or Piccolo pulling out the Makankosappo. Considering they were supposedly taking them out non-lethally, Tenshinhan's move was overkill. Why was Krillin presented pretty poorly? Well, that's because they had to build Gohan up. The better Gohan looked, the more shocking his defeat at the hands of Freeza would be. We know Krillin's the strongest in BoG and we're told that he's the strongest in RoF. Unless you seriously think that he could be killed by soldiers who can't be more than a few thousand, the fight against Freeza's army can't be used.



~~Big Green The Yoshi~~	Sep 17 2015, 06:08 PM Post #28
Posts: 534 Group: GTFO Member #8,762 Joined: December 31, 2012 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk, Real, One Piece, Toriko, Monster, Slam Dunk	This debate never ceases to amaze me... Tens*hands fanboys are so biased. Yamcha states that Krillin is the strongest Human by the Boo Arc, and he looks away from Marron when he says this. Uncontradicted Statements = Fact. The fing guidebook lists Krillin as the strongest Earthling, too. You can make sense out of this by saying Krillin's power up on Namek opened up the gap that Tenshands could never hope to close. Vegeta said Krillin was of help against Freeza, so we know that Krillin's a god damn beast on Namek. Hell, Yamcha is probably comparable to Tenshands, since he's basically Yamcha #2, except without a micropenis. Just because Krillin is somewhat of a gag character and Tenshands is a serious warrior means jack s. It just proves that this debate goes on because Tenshands is seemingly the cooler character. Guess what? Krillin had way more instances to shine... Like before Tenshands was even introduced, as well as on Namek, where Tenshands was fing dead. Krillin > Tenshands, both as a fighter and a character. I'm likely not going to debate further in this thread other than this one post. Don't be surprised if I browse it, though. Edited by Big Green The Yoshi**, Sep 18 2015, 12:33 AM.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Sep 17 2015, 09:22 PM Post #29
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	More points toward Krillin being stronger.



+ Pyrus	Sep 17 2015, 10:39 PM Post #30
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Professor Gohan Sep 17 2015, 09:22 PM More points toward Krillin being stronger. That's to be expected here, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the true thought of the forum. Probably quite a few people who think otherwise that don't want to ~~have their fantasies shattered~~argue about it.
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