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Feminism
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~~Wong Lee~~	Oct 2 2015, 06:04 PM Post #46
Posts: 184 Group: Suspended Member #12,135 Joined: March 13, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime ex-Driver What Browser do you use? Netscape Favourite Manga none	I am not really surprised of the two topless feminists incident mentioned in the very first posts. I mean it's in human nature to misuse Practices/beliefs/Philosophy for personal goals. But, what surprises me even more is the fact that we still have feminism. I am just baffled that feminism has not yet evolved into Humanism. I mean, It's really depressing to see that, we have to separately rely on feminism to advocate equality in gender.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Oct 2 2015, 06:11 PM Post #47
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Wong Lee Oct 2 2015, 06:04 PM I am not really surprised of the two topless feminists incident mentioned in the very first posts. I mean it's in human nature to misuse Practices/beliefs/Philosophy for personal goals. But, what surprises me even more is the fact that we still have feminism. I am just baffled that feminism has not yet evolved into Humanism. I mean, It's really depressing to see that, we have to separately rely on feminism to advocate equality in gender. Let me copy/paste what I said on the previous page. "As long as social issues like these exist, feminism will continue fighting, and I'll continue to back it as a movement. Feminism has far too much history to just chuck it out the window or call it something different. That would be disrespecting what the original feminists fought for. Which is a ton of history. Take a women's history class if you don't understand what women have gone through over the years. It's pretty s***ty looking back on it." I could elaborate, but I hate debating the same arguments over and over again. Humanism and feminism are not the same thing. Humanism is an ideology, not a movement.



+ Steve	Oct 2 2015, 06:27 PM Post #48
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	It would be a good idea to rename feminism though because plenty ignorant people get the wrong idea and act against it. And there are so many "feminists" or "feminazi's" that butcher it and make people think it's all about women > men, teaching others and leading by example. That s*** needs to stop. Renaming it Equalism or whatever would be a good way to nip that in the bud somewhat, you can't claim to be about equality for all while saying one side is better than the other like feminazi's do. People who do that would obviously not be actual equalists but as it stands now feminazi's can completely misrepresent feminism and ignorant people are none the wiser, thinking it's all about women. Equalism/humanism/whatever would be a much easier name for people to digest since many people will put no more thought in to it than the name, feminism suggests women. Not like everyone is going to take the time to look up what feminism actually is, the fact that so many people have no idea is proof.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Oct 2 2015, 06:40 PM Post #49
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Why change the name of an entire movement simply to cater to people who can't be bothered to actually look into it and learn what it's about? People who bash feminism and claim that it's a certain way without actually taking the time to study it for themselves are just as bad as feminazis. I don't want to cater to those types of people and give them what they want, so I don't advocate that at all.



Mihawk	Oct 2 2015, 06:42 PM Post #50
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Steve Oct 2 2015, 06:27 PM It would be a good idea to rename feminism though because plenty ignorant people get the wrong idea and act against it. And there are so many "feminists" or "feminazi's" that butcher it and make people think it's all about women > men, teaching others and leading by example. That s*** needs to stop. Renaming it Equalism or whatever would be a good way to nip that in the bud somewhat, you can't claim to be about equality for all while saying one side is better than the other like feminazi's do. People who do that would obviously not be actual equalists but as it stands now feminazi's can completely misrepresent feminism and ignorant people are none the wiser, thinking it's all about women. Equalism/humanism/whatever would be a much easier name for people to digest since many people will put no more thought in to it than the name, feminism suggests women. Not like everyone is going to take the time to look up what feminism actually is, the fact that so many people have no idea is proof. Doesn't seem necessary anymore, the name is being dropped for the purpose: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Oct 2 2015, 06:44 PM Post #51
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	People refuse to identify as feminists because of their own ignorance. There's really no way to put that nicely.



Mihawk	Oct 2 2015, 06:47 PM Post #52
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I wouldn't want identify was a republican even if I support representative democracy. They're not mutually exclusive. Edited by Mihawk, Oct 2 2015, 06:56 PM.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Oct 2 2015, 06:53 PM Post #53
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I'm not very familiar with your reference, so I'm not sure what to say to that. Haha



Mihawk	Oct 2 2015, 06:56 PM Post #54
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I meant republican, blah



~~Wong Lee~~	Oct 2 2015, 07:00 PM Post #55
Posts: 184 Group: Suspended Member #12,135 Joined: March 13, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime ex-Driver What Browser do you use? Netscape Favourite Manga none	I am not against Feminism nor do I have beliefs or practices in Feminism. I am just really disappointed that Feminism hasn't yet evolved to humanism. And this is just my belief that Feminism will eventually evolve into humanism. I am a firm believer that(and this is just my personal opinion not enforcing it to anyone) Feminism will inevitably contradicts it's actual goals and thus will eventually evolve into Humanism. I completely understand if you disagree with my view points/belief. I mean to each his own right?. Anyways,This is just my view on the topic and Feminism in general. I was just expressing my disappointment at Feminism still not evolving at a human level rather than gender level(Again this just my view/belief not enforcing it to anyone).



* Yu Narukami	Oct 2 2015, 07:07 PM Post #56
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	If a person's not comfortable identifying as a Feminist, they can identify as an egalitarian. They're both essentially the same thing, and an egalitarian would be fighting for the same thing as a feminist.



Fulgore	Oct 2 2015, 07:36 PM Post #57
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	@OFG First wave ended in the 1950s. There's plenty of them STILL alive. I spoke my piece on this, and I'm done on the matter.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Oct 2 2015, 07:40 PM Post #58
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Fulgore Oct 2 2015, 07:36 PM @OFG First wave ended in the 1950s. There's plenty of them STILL alive. I spoke my piece on this, and I'm done on the matter. Really? Name one. You don't know enough about the terms you're using to make the kind of claims you were making in your previous post.



+ Steve	Oct 2 2015, 09:59 PM Post #59
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	ObsessiveFanGirl Oct 2 2015, 06:40 PM Why change the name of an entire movement simply to cater to people who can't be bothered to actually look into it and learn what it's about? People who bash feminism and claim that it's a certain way without actually taking the time to study it for themselves are just as bad as feminazis. I don't want to cater to those types of people and give them what they want, so I don't advocate that at all. But...why? You have misinformed people out there teaching their kids and others that feminism is stupid and that women only want to be in better positions than men. Would it not make more sense to cater to the misinformed rather than the feminazi's who bastardize the whole movement? They are far worse than the ignorant they're taking a name and completely abusing it because they're selfish a*****. A neutral term makes more sense anyway since men aren't equal to women in some ways plus there's transgenders to consider so it might as well be neutral instead of fem.
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